+1 for CampaignMonitor

* It is far easier to use by a non-techie person than MailChimp.
* The API is well documented and implemented.
* You can brand it with your own logo if you need clients to login and use it.
* Can do what Nigel mentioned below.

Check out http://www.campaignmonitor.com/api for more info on the API and what 
it can do.

+0.5 for MailChimp. Its a great product but far too confusing for non-techies. 
We have a few clients that use it and they are constantly on the phone to us 
asking for help with the UI.

Cheers
Craig


On 9/07/2010, at 1:35 PM, Nigel Hulls wrote:

> +1 for mailchimp, with their api you can generate and send emails from within 
> your app without having to manually login to their website.
> 
> Have yet to have any mail delivery problems with them yet, always seems to 
> get through to hotmail, gmail and yahoo.
> 
> On 9 July 2010 13:07, Aaron Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
> We've done alot of work with email marketing services. The setup of the 
> server is vitally important as there are so many hidden things in the way 
> they are configured that can automatically break the game at the client end 
> if their spam filters do reverse checking on the source server. This is the 
> benefit of paid services like Mailchimp. The servers are configured by 
> specialists for optimum delivery. If you plan on doing this yourself, you 
> want to allow for some research in how this all works. If the  server isn't 
> setup right, it won't matter how your code works, or what your content is, 
> you won't even get that far.
>  
> The way around this is to use your own software in a normal hosting 
> environment, and set it up to use an external SMTP service. Best of both 
> worlds so to speak. www.smtp.com is a good place to start to get an idea of 
> the cost of such a service.
>  
> As for the software, I've had alot of experience with Email Marketer from 
> Interspire.http://www.interspire.com/emailmarketer/. My experience with it 
> and the company is both good and bad. Their licensing changes in the past 
> have been very ugly, and at one stage they were removing complaint after 
> complaint from their forums and even banned some users for hearsay. Haven't 
> upgraded or been there for a while so not sure now. The product is fairly 
> good. The original was great. Some of the upgrades have been a little buggy 
> however and some users have chosen not to upgrade. My last look at them was 
> about a year ago, so a trial might be worth a shot. The software will 
> certainly do everything you have listed and then some. There was even talk of 
> SMS messaging at one stage.
>  
> Aaron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Olwen Williams
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:55 AM
> Subject: [phpug] Mailing List Software
> 
> I tried to send this from my gmail account but maybe I messed up the 
> subscription there because it never made it.
> 
> One of my customers has a need for some versatile mailing list software that 
> has several features.
> 
> Must allow customers to come from a number of sources (I can push them into a 
> database from my sources)
> Must allow customers to subscribe/unsubscribe
> Customers must be able to select different emails that they will get
> Preferably has some reasonably comprehensive survey components
> Easy interface for entering emails.
> Emails sent in the back end (i.e. schedule them to be sent and it just 
> happens over a period of hours)
> Some emails will be sent automatically when something triggers them.  This 
> may come from several sources.
> 
> They have a Joomla site, but they also have other software that supplies 
> leads.
> 
> I've discussed it briefly with one developer who said he had had a 50% 
> failure rate sending to Xtra (falling into spam filters) and suggested that a 
> commercial service might be better.  I'm prepared to consider that if it had 
> the flexibility for us to push our leads into it.
> 
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