Having used both MailChimp and CampaignMonitor, +1 for CampaignMonitor.

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On 9/07/2010, at 1:42 PM, Craig Boxall wrote:

> +1 for CampaignMonitor
> 
> * It is far easier to use by a non-techie person than MailChimp.
> * The API is well documented and implemented.
> * You can brand it with your own logo if you need clients to login and use it.
> * Can do what Nigel mentioned below.
> 
> Check out http://www.campaignmonitor.com/api for more info on the API and 
> what it can do.
> 
> +0.5 for MailChimp. Its a great product but far too confusing for 
> non-techies. We have a few clients that use it and they are constantly on the 
> phone to us asking for help with the UI.
> 
> Cheers
> Craig
> 
> 
> On 9/07/2010, at 1:35 PM, Nigel Hulls wrote:
> 
>> +1 for mailchimp, with their api you can generate and send emails from 
>> within your app without having to manually login to their website.
>> 
>> Have yet to have any mail delivery problems with them yet, always seems to 
>> get through to hotmail, gmail and yahoo.
>> 
>> On 9 July 2010 13:07, Aaron Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We've done alot of work with email marketing services. The setup of the 
>> server is vitally important as there are so many hidden things in the way 
>> they are configured that can automatically break the game at the client end 
>> if their spam filters do reverse checking on the source server. This is the 
>> benefit of paid services like Mailchimp. The servers are configured by 
>> specialists for optimum delivery. If you plan on doing this yourself, you 
>> want to allow for some research in how this all works. If the server isn't 
>> setup right, it won't matter how your code works, or what your content is, 
>> you won't even get that far.
>>  
>> The way around this is to use your own software in a normal hosting 
>> environment, and set it up to use an external SMTP service. Best of both 
>> worlds so to speak. www.smtp.com is a good place to start to get an idea of 
>> the cost of such a service.
>>  
>> As for the software, I've had alot of experience with Email Marketer from 
>> Interspire.http://www.interspire.com/emailmarketer/. My experience with it 
>> and the company is both good and bad. Their licensing changes in the past 
>> have been very ugly, and at one stage they were removing complaint after 
>> complaint from their forums and even banned some users for hearsay. Haven't 
>> upgraded or been there for a while so not sure now. The product is fairly 
>> good. The original was great. Some of the upgrades have been a little buggy 
>> however and some users have chosen not to upgrade. My last look at them was 
>> about a year ago, so a trial might be worth a shot. The software will 
>> certainly do everything you have listed and then some. There was even talk 
>> of SMS messaging at one stage.
>>  
>> Aaron
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Olwen Williams
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:55 AM
>> Subject: [phpug] Mailing List Software
>> 
>> I tried to send this from my gmail account but maybe I messed up the 
>> subscription there because it never made it.
>> 
>> One of my customers has a need for some versatile mailing list software that 
>> has several features.
>> 
>>      • Must allow customers to come from a number of sources (I can push 
>> them into a database from my sources)
>>      • Must allow customers to subscribe/unsubscribe
>>      • Customers must be able to select different emails that they will get
>>      • Preferably has some reasonably comprehensive survey components
>>      • Easy interface for entering emails.
>>      • Emails sent in the back end (i.e. schedule them to be sent and it 
>> just happens over a period of hours)     
>>      • Some emails will be sent automatically when something triggers them.  
>> This may come from several sources.
>> 
>> They have a Joomla site, but they also have other software that supplies 
>> leads.
>> 
>> I've discussed it briefly with one developer who said he had had a 50% 
>> failure rate sending to Xtra (falling into spam filters) and suggested that 
>> a commercial service might be better.  I'm prepared to consider that if it 
>> had the flexibility for us to push our leads into it.
>> 
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