Nat,

 

The information that will be used to update the NAESB REQ.21 Standard can be 
found at http://greenbuttondata.org.  The document that defines the 
Authorization requirements is referenced as the “GreenButton Implementation 
Agreement 
<http://osgug.ucaiug.org/sgsystems/OpenADE/Shared%20Documents/Testing%20and%20Certification/GreenButtonTestPlan/referenceMaterial/GreenButtonAuthorization.docx>
 ”.   The current NAESB REQ.21 Standard is available on the NAESB Website, but 
is a copyrighted standard and cost $250.00.  However, NAESB does provide the 
standard for evaluation purposes, by contacting the NAESB office at 
na...@naesb.org <mailto:na...@naesb.org> .

 

The Green Button website is the technical repository for the Green Button 
initiative.  Therefore, there are several technical documents and videos 
available.  Let me know if you need help finding anything.

 

Best regards,

Don

Donald F. Coffin

Founder/CTO

 

REMI Networks

2335 Dunwoody Xing #E

Dunwoody, GA 30338-8221

 

Phone:      (949) 636-8571

Email:        <mailto:donald.cof...@reminetworks.com> 
donald.cof...@reminetworks.com

 

From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:sakim...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Donald F. Coffin <donald.cof...@reminetworks.com>; Vladimir Dzhuvinov 
<vladi...@connect2id.com>; oauth@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 Discovery Location

 

Interesting. Is there a link that I can download your spec etc. ? 

 

I have not much preference over the actual endpoint link or the web origin. As 
long as the semantics is clear, either is fine. 

I was even considering using URI template. It will be extremely flexible, but I 
am not sure about the current status of the library availability and its 
qualities. 

 

Re: RFC5988 header or JSON - If you go back to earlier drafts, I was using 
JSON. This will make it independent of HTTPS. 

Also, developers can just process the JSON and store it in JSON. This is a 
overall win. 

Downside is that there is no standard for doing JSON metadata. Since Swagger is 
using JSON Schema way of expressing it, perhaps that's the way we should go, 
though, HAL seems to be a bit more efficient and nice. 

 

In either way, though, IMHO, it is important to define the link relation in the 
RFC5988 IANA registry. 

Converting RFC5988 link header to either JSON schema metadata or HAL is 
trivial. 

 

Nat

 

 

2016年2月25日(木) 23:05 Donald F. Coffin <donald.cof...@reminetworks.com 
<mailto:donald.cof...@reminetworks.com> >:

In fact, this is the method being used by utilities implementing the Green 
Button Connect My Data interface (North American Energy Standards Boards’ 
(NAESB) Retail Energy Quadrant 21 (REQ.21) Standard (Energy Service Provider 
Interface – ESPI).  The Green Button Alliance is in the processing of updating 
the specification to use OAuth 2.0.  The industry OpenADE Task Force, which is 
the technical WG of the UCAIug, defined additional information be returned with 
the OAuth 2.0  Token Response that includes the URI of the resource to which 
the AT can be used.

 

Best regards,

Don

Donald F. Coffin

Founder/CTO

 

REMI Networks

2335 Dunwoody Xing #E

Dunwoody, GA 30338-8221

 

Phone:      (949) 636-8571

Email:        <mailto:donald.cof...@reminetworks.com> 
donald.cof...@reminetworks.com

 

From: Vladimir Dzhuvinov [mailto:vladi...@connect2id.com 
<mailto:vladi...@connect2id.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 2:23 AM
To: oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> 


Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 Discovery Location

 

 

On 25/02/16 09:02, Manger, James wrote:

I'm concerned that forcing the AS to know about all RS's endpoints that will 
accept it's tokens creates a very brittle deployment architecture

 
The AS is issuing temporary credentials (access_tokens) to clients but doesn’t 
know where those credentials will work? That’s broken.
 
An AS should absolutely indicate where an access_token can be used. 
draft-sakimura-oauth-meta suggests indicating this with 1 or more “ruri” 
(resource URI) values in an HTTP Link header. A better approach would be 
including a list of web origins in the token response beside the access_token 
field.

+1 

This will appear more consistent with the current experience, and OAuth does 
allow the token response JSON object to be extended with additional members (as 
it's done in OpenID Connect already).

Cheers,
Vladimir



--
James Manger
 
From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of George Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, 25 February 2016 6:17 AM
To: Phil Hunt  <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com> <phil.h...@oracle.com>; Nat 
Sakimura  <mailto:sakim...@gmail.com> <sakim...@gmail.com>
Cc:  <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> <oauth@ietf.org>  <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> 
<oauth@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 Discovery Location
 
I'm concerned that forcing the AS to know about all RS's endpoints that will 
accept it's tokens creates a very brittle deployment architecture. What if a RS 
moves to a new endpoint? All clients would be required to get new tokens (if I 
understand correctly). And the RS move would have to coordinate with the AS to 
make sure all the timing is perfect in the switch over of endpoints.
 
I suspect a common deployment architecture today is that each RS requires one 
or more scopes to access it's resources. The client then asks the user to 
authorize a token with a requested list of scopes. The client can then send the 
token to the appropriate RS endpoint. The RS will not authorize access unless 
the token has the required scopes.
 
If the concern is that the client may accidentally send the token to a "bad" RS 
which will then replay the token, then I'd rather use a PoP mechanism because 
the point is that you want to ensure the correct client is presenting the 
token. Trying to ensure the client doesn't send the token to the wrong endpoint 
seems fraught with problems.
 
Thanks,
George





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