Hello Brian and Vittorio,

I have two observations:

 * draft-fett-oauth-dpop-04 which is the last version expired on 5
   September 2020,
 * the podcast as well as draft-fett-oauth-dpop-04 omit to mention the
   client/user collaborative attack against which
   draft-fett-oauth-dpop-04 is ineffective.


Denis

PS. The podcast is a nice effort but is far too long (29:37).

The mTLS vs DPoP was good in articulating how the two specs are alike, how they differ and which particular type of app they are meant to serve.

I'm saying this as a person who is generally allergic to technical podcasts :)

Maybe every RFC that comes out of this WG should have a podcast link at the top, where the authors discuss it in simple, honest and non-speccy terms, because that's often how people are best able to perceive the spirit and subtleties of some technical or spec work.

Vladimir

On 21/09/2020 09:40, Vittorio Bertocci wrote:

Dear all,

This is an informal mail to inform you that there’s a new podcast <http://identityunlocked.com/>, identityunlocked.com <http://identityunlocked.com/>, dedicated to inform and explain new identity specs developments for developers.

You can find a more detailed explanation of the podcast’s goals in https://auth0.com/blog/identity-unlocked-a-podcast-for-developers/, but the TL;DR is that the spec themselves aren’t all that easy to read for the non-initiated, and a lot of useful info emerges during the discussions leading to the spec but rarely surface in a usable form to the people who don’t participate in discussions.

The first episode <https://auth0.com/blog/identity-unlocked-explained-episode-1/>, featuring Brian Campbell discussing MTLS & DPoP, should give you an idea of what season 1 of the show will look like.

The full list of the first run is available here <https://auth0.com/blog/auth0-launches-identity-unlocked-the-identity-podcast-for-developers/>. Of 6 episodes, 3 of them are about specifications coming out of this WG- and all guests are actively involved in the IETF.

My main goals sharing this info here are

  * *Letting you know that the podcast exists*, so that you can make
    use of it if you so choose (e.g. referring people to it if they
    need to better understand something covered in an episode)
  * *Soliciting proposals for new episodes*: topics you believe are
    currently underserved, topics you are often asked about, topics
    you would like to be interviewed about on the show
  * *Growing the show’s subscriber base*. I was able to get backing
    from my company to produce a podcast that has exactly ZERO
    product pitches and is purely about identity specs promotion, on
    the gamble that the topic does have an audience finding it
    useful. So far the reception has been great, and we need to keep
    it up if we want to have a season 2.

I hope you’ll find the initiative useful!

Cheers,

V.


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