On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 2:57 AM Daniel Fett <m...@danielfett.de> wrote:

>
> Most of the SHOULDs here seem unsupported to me, in the sense that I'm not
> clear what interoperability breaks if I decide not to do what it says.  Some
> prose about that would be helpful to include.
>
> Looking at the draft again, we have only a few SHOULDs and for all of them
> I think it is clear what the consequences are of not doing it.
>
> For example, the first one reads "To reduce the likelihood of false
> negatives, servers SHOULD..." which implies that not following the SHOULD
> means risking false negatives. The other instances are concerned with
> providing information to clients in DPoP challenges. I think it is
> sufficiently clear that not providing this information may make it harder
> for the client to respond properly and to debug errors.
>
The SHOULD in 7.1 is perhaps a better example.  Is there an
interoperability failure if I elect not to include an error parameter?  Or
is this more of a UX issue?

>
> I know this isn't the first OAUTH document I've reviewed, but I still find it
> strange that claim names are not quoted or in all-caps or something.  In 
> prose,
> they just look like typos to me.
>
> As I wrote in the thread for Step-Up Authn:
>
> "Since the same comment was raised also for DPoP, my two cents on this:
>
> We discussed this very topic when finalizing RFC9207. Back then, we
> noticed that when using the correct markup in the XML (<tt>), the HTML
> renders fine (gray background, monospaced font) but depending on how the
> textual format is created, there may or may not be quotes around the
> parameter. Adding quotes manually in the XML source does not make too much
> sense as they'll needlessly show up in the HTML as well. IIRC there was
> some version of xml2rfc that added quotes around <tt> parts but that was
> removed again.
>
> So the consensus was that prioritizing proper HTML output makes sense and
> we did not add any quotes (with the blessing of the RFC editor)."
>
Thanks, I didn't have this background.  It's a bit weird that we're willing
to settle for this, but so it goes.

-MSK
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