The actions in this group remind me of something.

When I was a teacher, I noted a certain category of  students who lived
always in crisis. If there was not a crisis in their life, they went out of
their way to create one. It could be with a teacher, their parents, their
girlfriends or their boyfriends. They lived their lives as if in a soap
opera. They seemed always to be in argument and dispute.

I am not a member of the OBC but was one when the club started again early
in the 1970's. Politics, petty argument, and disputes got in the way of the
joy of  cycling.

Seems not much has changed in 30+ years.

Mike Bachman




----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Corner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "OBC Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [obc] ! New rules for OBC mailing list !


> Put me down as opposed to the new rules. I am quite capable of deleting
> without reading thoses topics or discussions that are not of interest to
me.
> Doug Corner
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M. Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "OBC Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [obc] ! New rules for OBC mailing list !
>
>
> > All non-members or former OBC members can still read all postings such
as
> > Learn to Ride Clinic, Rideau Lake Cycling Tour and Sunday's rides from
OBC
> > mailing list by going to the topica.com web site.  The new way of
> obtaining
> > this information is not as convenient as the email subscription.  The
> > non-members can not post directly to the list except going through the
OBC
> > office.
> >
> > As far as inappropriate etiquette from non-members, the behavior of
those
> > individuals are the one that needs to be changed.  Shutting them out is
an
> > option but it's not a win-win option.  In the past, Greg Franks usually
> sent
> > out a Electronic Mail Etiquette reminder periodically.  The last one was
> > sent on April 10, 2002.  I would suggest the new OBC list manager to
send
> > all new and some existing members about the etiquette of using this OBC
> > list.   Here is an excerpt from it:
> >
> >    Avoid public "flames" - messages sent in anger. Messages sent in
> >    the heat of the moment generally only exacerbate the situation and
> >    are usually regretted later. Settle down and think about it for a
> >    while before starting a flame war. (Try going and making yourself a
> >    cup of coffee - it's amazing how much you can cool down even in
> >    that short a time, besides which a cup of good coffee is a great
> >    soother).
> >
> > There are no right or wrong way to solve this problem.  Are the changes
> make
> > the OBC mailing list better?  Probably but there may be other better
> > options.  It is not a win-win situation for members and non-members.  Do
> > anyone else have other suggestions?
> >
> > Here are my two cents!
> >
> > Michael Lau
> > OBC member since '90
> >
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