*Okay, you're a man behind the 'hidden' gun. I'm sorry if I offended you. I thought you were someone else I know.
What's UTY, dear? Elaine** * On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:27 PM, FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenz...@yahoo.com>wrote: > A Noob ? ...hehehe UTY :) > But 'm, only a man behind the 'hidden' gun > > GBU > > Rgrds > > > > > Elaine Sui <elainesu...@...> wrote: > > > > *I guess you're right. You're a noob. Sorry. [?] > > > > Elaine** > > * > > 2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenz...@...> > > > > > Hi Sexy, > > > Thanks, I'm just newbie based on Nov posting, coz in the past I > > > did'nt have enough time to monitor thid OB, ... due to market > > > growth :) > > > > > > Btw, your answer is not bad, it's only a small element of leading > > > economic indicator reflected in a number unit of > housing/constraction > > > activity ..up or down, it's just an example of the leading > economic > > > indicator. But remember, there is out there, a number copper > > > substitute, ask constraction engineer. > > > > > > That's all debatable hehehe ... CAPEK DEH... > > > > > > Back to laptop for tommorow Jan 5... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Elaine Sui <elainesui83@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *The answer is 'a', Copper spot price. Copper is the most widely > > > used metal, > > > > mainly for electricity. The chief commercial use of copper is > based > > > on its > > > > electrical conductivity (second only to that of silver); about > half > > > the > > > > total annual output of copper is employed in the manufacture of > > > electrical > > > > apparatus and wire. > > > > > > > > Copper is also used extensively as roofing, in making copper > > > utensils, and > > > > for coins and metalwork. Copper tubing is used in plumbing, and, > > > because of > > > > its high heat conductivity, in heat-exchanging devices such as > > > refrigerator > > > > and air-conditioner coils. Powdered copper is sometimes used as > a > > > pigment in > > > > paints. > > > > > > > > An important use of copper is in alloys such as brass, bronze, > > > gunmetal, > > > > Monel metal, and German silver. Compounds of copper are widely > used > > > as > > > > insecticides and fungicides; as pigments in paints; as mordants > > > (fixatives) > > > > in dyeing; and in electroplating.* > > > > * > > > > You aren't newbie, cuz your answer is the same as any economist > > > would give. > > > > [?]. Ask Embah if you don't believe me. > > > > ** > > > > Elaine** > > > > * > > > > 2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@> > > > > > > > > > Ohhh no ! Your questions intimidate newbie like me who is > still > > > > > learning more abt macro-ec ....hahahaha.... I'm not > economist ... > > > not > > > > > expert, ask them. > > > > > > > > > > I think you can answer yourself honey, because I bet you know > more > > > > > about "Leading Economic Indicator" that will change direction > > > before > > > > > the economy begins to change :)) > > > > > > > > > > None can predict accurately - the future economic growth- > > > Underlined - > > > > > - FUTURE > > > > > > > > > > But I or you ,maybe simply, have a kind of indicator that > could be > > > > > indicators for future economic growth ?? Say that "Stock > Index"- > > > > > common stocks traded on the IDX or NYSE etc. > > > > > > > > > > Bullish or bearish of the stocks price / index will be good > > > indicator > > > > > of the future economic growth. Whether the movement of stocks > hv > > > long > > > > > or short time bullish/bearish will affect "market and > investor' > > > > > sentiment". They will assume the future growth, but don't > forget > > > the > > > > > interest rates movement ... hehehe.... > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elaine Sui <elainesui83@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to > measure > > > > > **future > > > > > > economic growth: > > > > > > a. Copper spot price > > > > > > b. Crude Oil > > > > > > c. Consumer price index > > > > > > d. GDP > > > > > > e. none above > > > > > > > > > > > > I bet you can't answer that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Elaine > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but > I'm > > > > > still > > > > > > > newbie on my nov first posting :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, Have a Nice weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elaine Sui <elainesui83@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you > were, > > > > > > > welcome back > > > > > > > > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elaine** > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning > more > > > > > macro- > > > > > > > > > econ, global commodties market trend ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Elaine Sui" <elainesui83@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by > using > > > > > technical > > > > > > > > > because they > > > > > > > > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a > > > hand > > > > > gun, > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > can save > > > > > > > > > > your life, or make yourself killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I > ever > > > hear > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > before..) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elaine** > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja > > > walau > > > > > kalah > > > > > > > sama > > > > > > > > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama > kali > > > > > posting > > > > > > > baru > > > > > > > > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ruzli <indeksbei3000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy > jg mau > > > > > post > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > > sektor > > > > > > > > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 > > > > > disini :> . > > > > > > > Kalau > > > > > > > > > di > > > > > > > > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif > > > antara > > > > > Price > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > Volume, > > > > > > > > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. > Kemungkinan > > > akan > > > > > > > koreksi > > > > > > > > > > > tgl 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. > Untuk > > > tgl 5 > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > sy > > > > > > > > > jg > > > > > > > > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz <y_dizz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. > Santa > > > Claus > > > > > > > wave-nya > > > > > > > > > > > IHSG > > > > > > > > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak > usah > > > > > posting > > > > > > > lagi > > > > > > > > > lah, > > > > > > > > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang > dulu > > > saya > > > > > > > post. 5 > > > > > > > > > > > Januari > > > > > > > > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli > > > > > > > <indeksbei3000@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau > salah. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, > baik > > > itu > > > > > > > > > candlestick, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> stochastic,dll. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu > > > analisa > > > > > > > laporan > > > > > > > > > > > > > keuangan, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm > > > seperti > > > > > mama > > > > > > > > > loren, > > > > > > > > > > > cuma > > > > > > > > > > > > > ho ki te it > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. > > > Mungkin > > > > > ada > > > > > > > > > saran, > > > > > > > > > > > > > masukan > > > > > > > > > > > > >> buat ke depan? > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz <y_dizz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. > DJIA & > > > oil > > > > > > > breakout > > > > > > > > > > > > > trendline- > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas > > > pol, > > > > > 1430 > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > come... > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan- > > > > > ban...@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg" > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > <frombuitenzorg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk > membuktikan > > > > > > > sulitnya > > > > > > > > > > > > > memprediksi > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren > yg > > > > > > > ngeramal, ini > > > > > > > > > > > > > prediksi > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . 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