*I guess  you're right. You're a noob. Sorry. [?]

Elaine**
*
2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenz...@yahoo.com>

> Hi Sexy,
> Thanks, I'm just newbie based on Nov posting, coz in the past I
> did'nt have enough time to monitor thid OB, ... due to market
> growth :)
>
> Btw, your answer is not bad, it's only a small element of leading
> economic indicator reflected in a number unit of housing/constraction
> activity ..up or down, it's just an example of the leading economic
> indicator. But remember, there is out there, a number copper
> substitute, ask constraction engineer.
>
> That's all debatable hehehe ... CAPEK DEH...
>
> Back to laptop for tommorow Jan 5...
>
> Regards
>
>
> Elaine Sui <elainesu...@...> wrote:
> >
> > *The answer is 'a', Copper spot price. Copper is the most widely
> used metal,
> > mainly for electricity. The chief commercial use of copper is based
> on its
> > electrical conductivity (second only to that of silver); about half
> the
> > total annual output of copper is employed in the manufacture of
> electrical
> > apparatus and wire.
> >
> > Copper is also used extensively as roofing, in making copper
> utensils, and
> > for coins and metalwork. Copper tubing is used in plumbing, and,
> because of
> > its high heat conductivity, in heat-exchanging devices such as
> refrigerator
> > and air-conditioner coils. Powdered copper is sometimes used as a
> pigment in
> > paints.
> >
> > An important use of copper is in alloys such as brass, bronze,
> gunmetal,
> > Monel metal, and German silver. Compounds of copper are widely used
> as
> > insecticides and fungicides; as pigments in paints; as mordants
> (fixatives)
> > in dyeing; and in electroplating.*
> > *
> > You aren't newbie, cuz your answer is the same as any economist
> would give.
> > [?]. Ask Embah if you don't believe me.
> > **
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > 2009/1/4 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenz...@...>
> >
> > > Ohhh no ! Your questions intimidate newbie like me who is still
> > > learning more abt macro-ec ....hahahaha.... I'm not economist ...
> not
> > > expert, ask them.
> > >
> > > I think you can answer yourself honey, because I bet you know more
> > > about  "Leading Economic Indicator" that will change direction
> before
> > > the economy begins to change  :))
> > >
> > > None can predict accurately - the future economic growth-
> Underlined -
> > > - FUTURE
> > >
> > > But I or you ,maybe simply, have a kind of indicator that could be
> > > indicators for future economic growth ?? Say that "Stock Index"-
> > > common stocks traded on the IDX or NYSE etc.
> > >
> > > Bullish or bearish of the stocks price / index will be good
> indicator
> > > of the future economic growth. Whether the movement of stocks hv
> long
> > > or short time bullish/bearish will affect "market and investor'
> > > sentiment". They will assume the future growth, but don't forget
> the
> > > interest rates movement ... hehehe....
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > Elaine Sui <elainesui83@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure
> > > **future
> > > > economic growth:
> > > > a. Copper spot price
> > > > b. Crude Oil
> > > > c. Consumer price index
> > > > d. GDP
> > > > e. none above
> > > >
> > > > I bet you can't answer that.
> > > >
> > > > Elaine
> > > > **
> > > > *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@>
> > > >
> > > > > I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm
> > > still
> > > > > newbie on my nov first posting :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Elaine Sui <elainesui83@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
> > > > > welcome back
> > > > > > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elaine**
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more
> > > macro-
> > > > > > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Elaine Sui" <elainesui83@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using
> > > technical
> > > > > > > because they
> > > > > > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a
> hand
> > > gun,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > can save
> > > > > > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever
> hear
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > before..)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Elaine**
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg <frombuitenzorg@>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja
> walau
> > > kalah
> > > > > sama
> > > > > > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali
> > > posting
> > > > > baru
> > > > > > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Peace
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ruzli <indeksbei3000@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau
> > > post
> > > > > chart
> > > > > > > > > sektor
> > > > > > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2
> > > disini :> .
> > > > > Kalau
> > > > > > > di
> > > > > > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif
> antara
> > > Price
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > Volume,
> > > > > > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan
> akan
> > > > > koreksi
> > > > > > > > > tgl 7
> > > > > > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk
> tgl 5
> > > Jan
> > > > > sy
> > > > > > > jg
> > > > > > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz <y_dizz@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa
> Claus
> > > > > wave-nya
> > > > > > > > > IHSG
> > > > > > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah
> > > posting
> > > > > lagi
> > > > > > > lah,
> > > > > > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu
> saya
> > > > > post. 5
> > > > > > > > > Januari
> > > > > > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
> > > > > <indeksbei3000@>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik
> itu
> > > > > > > candlestick,
> > > > > > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu
> analisa
> > > > > laporan
> > > > > > > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm
> seperti
> > > mama
> > > > > > > loren,
> > > > > > > > > cuma
> > > > > > > > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > > > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih.
> Mungkin
> > > ada
> > > > > > > saran,
> > > > > > > > > > > masukan
> > > > > > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz <y_dizz@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA &
> oil
> > > > > breakout
> > > > > > > > > > > trendline-
> > > > > > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas
> pol,
> > > 1430
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > come...
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-
> > > ban...@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > > > > > > > > >> > <frombuitenzorg@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
> > > > > sulitnya
> > > > > > > > > > > memprediksi
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
> > > > > ngeramal,  ini
> > > > > > > > > > > prediksi
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo
> > > tepat
> > > > > pasti
> > > > > > > kita
> > > > > > > > > > >> > cepat
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009,
> > > Pliz. ..
> > > > > > > mohon
> > > > > > > > > > > jangan
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA
> > > atau
> > > > > FA.
> > > > > > > Ini
> > > > > > > > > hanya
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada
> akhir
> > > sesi
> > > > > tgl
> > > > > > > 5,
> > > > > > > > > > > HANYA
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali
> > > memprediksi
> > > > > > > masa
> > > > > > > > > > > depan".
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Disclaimer banget....
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran
> kemungkinan
> > > up,
> > > > > > > > > selisihnya
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5
> januari
> > > > > > > melesetnya.
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Regards
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
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