This time, I agree with elaine.
======================== A joke going around: Sometime this year, taxpayers will receive an Economic Stimulus Payment. This is a very exciting new program that will be explained using the Q and A format: Q. What is an Economic Stimulus Payment? A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.. Q. Where will the government get this money? A. From taxpayers. Q. So the government is giving me back my own money? A. No, they are borrowing it from China. Your children are expected to repay the Chinese. Q. What is the purpose of this payment? A. The plan is that you will use the money to purchase a high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy. Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China? A. Shut up. ***** From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food. What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt. Elaine On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderT <jsxtra...@yahoo.com> wrote: Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear. Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz.. Sent from my BullBerryR smartphone _____ From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY That's right! Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV series.. Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us. I have an interesting article, please read it. http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-wit h-china-korea.html Elaine On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei <highwaysta...@gmail.com> wrote: So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to US & Europe... On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano <yuta.tizi...@gmail.com> wrote: If I can summarize: 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic viewpoint 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from Asia That's how the recovery will work, right? Rgds, Yuta Powered by my VerryBerryR _____ From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700 To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY Error! Filename not specified. "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001) I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan, with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.) Elaine On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote: Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y <http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI> &s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High) - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low) El, What do you think ?. Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market rally compared to US market ? Will the world's indexes decouple ?. ------------------------------------ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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