Buset deh nyaris 1000 trilyun rupiah ya?
Bunganya 8% aja jadi 80 Trilyun... Pantes aja 2010 bayar bunga aja 115
trilyun

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Bambang Irwanto <bemben...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> *
> **right now, Indonesia Govt. Bond Outstanding is RP
> 974,297,524,463,886.00,*
> *I guest we'll stay at free float for some time with **$0.1 trillions outs
> bond and $0.05 trillions reserve.*
> *
> *
> *How could $0.1 trillions 'protect' the IDR from falling?
> *
> --- On *Mon, 9/21/09, Pak AA <pakaa2...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Pak AA <pakaa2...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ob] Kang Bagus - Apakah Indonesia meminta Inflow Hot Money
> untuk masuk Kontrak Berjangka Currency?
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 6:58 PM
>
>
>
>
> As always you look smart lol ... you must be smart for real
> BTW, which vice president do you mean, the current VP or the next one
> who'll be in power in this October? Isn't it the finance minister's idea to
> sell treasury bond...
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Elaine Sui <elainesui83@ 
> gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *China doesn't use free float for the renminbi yet their stock markets
>> are among the best. Note that pegged currency only works if you have huge
>> reserve, so It really depends.
>>
>> China has $2 trillions of fgn (USD) reserve, Japan has $1 trillions.
>> Indonesia has $0.05 trillions (lol), so Renminbi and Yen are fixed, IDR is
>> free float. In 1997 IDR was pegged to the USD (at IDR 2000 something)  but
>> then when something bad come up, and if ppl sees that you don't have
>> enough reserve, they may SHORT your currency.
>>
>> Same thing happened to poundsterling in 1992 (Soros made fortune on this
>> one by shorting $10 billions worth of poundsterling, hell that's 1/5 of your
>> total fgn reserve, so 5 ppl like soros technically can bring Indonesia
>> down..sorry)
>>
>> That's why your govt is selling treasury bonds so much, so everyone will
>> 'protect' the IDR from falling. ehhh, those ppl at the govt are smart, so
>> does your vice prosident, you have to trust them and let them work.
>>
>> Elaine**
>> *
>> 2009/9/18 <mr_...@yahoo. com <http://mc/compose?to=mr_...@yahoo.com>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Devisa bebas bagus untuk stock market,
>>>
>>> Sejak thailand kontrol devisa stock market nya ngga menarik lagi.
>>>
>>> Karena risk premium susah keluar mesti di kalkulasi dalam harga ...
>>>
>>> Bursa kite kan paling wussss ... Kalo dikontrol menurut hitungan kasar ya
>>> jebol 1000 lah bej
>>>
>>> Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * "Matt Nowo" <inf...@gmail. 
>>> com<http://mc/compose?to=inf...@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> *Date: *Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:34:25 +0000
>>> *To: *<obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>> com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >
>>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Kang Bagus - Apakah Indonesia meminta Inflow Hot
>>> Money untuk masuk Kontrak Berjangka Currency?
>>>
>>> Setauk saya yang telah menerapkan semacam "Chilian tax" di asean adalah
>>> malay n thailand. FDI/portfolio investment harus stay beberapa waktu.
>>>
>>> Indonesia, dalam UU no 24 thn 1999 menyatakan kita (memilih) menganut
>>> regime devisa bebas. Dalam kondisi aparatur negara yang belum tertib, maka
>>> agak riskan apabila menggunakan regime control devisa.
>>>
>>> Sent from my BearBerry®
>>> powered by ISAT & TLKM
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * Wong Cilik <gajahpelanduk@ 
>>> gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=gajahpelan...@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> *Date: *Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:41:54 +1000
>>> *To: *<obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>> com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >
>>> *Subject: *[ob] Kang Bagus - Apakah Indonesia meminta Inflow Hot Money
>>> untuk masuk Kontrak Berjangka Currency?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Den Bagus... Tulung tanya,
>>>
>>> Saya dengar Negara-negara Asean laen menerapkan pembatasan fluktuasi mata
>>> uang.  Cara mereka, dengan meminta dana Hot Money yang tidak melakukan FDI
>>> untuk masuk kontrak berjangka currency (jadi kurs masuk keluarnya sudah
>>> tidak terlalu besar lagi).
>>>
>>> Apakah Indonesia ada rencana untuk menerapkan sistem ini? Maksudnya untuk
>>> mengurangi spekulasi mata uang yang merusak sendi-sendi ekonomi.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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