Lumayan lah inponya. Kang Dean dah pernah bilang juga. Benernya pengen nanya sih. Tapi ya gak lah. Narsis sih :D BTW gue liat kog practicalnya di BUMI today. Pas istirahat offer di 5650 dipasang 34000 lot. Pas start session 2 itu bid hilang tinggal 6ooo an lot. Finally jebol tuh barriernya. Yang begini termasuk basi juga kali ya ? tauk ah elap :D
--- Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But it wouldn't be fun at all.... at least for me... > and I did > explain<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/65763>what > barriers are. Ok, I'll write here again: > > *For those who didn't catch up: > barriers = big, seem unpenetrable offer(bid) queue, > effective for moving the > price up/down and play a big role in psychological > wars > headshots = phantom bid/offers = sudden > (dis)appearing of bids/offers, ppl > often lured in this kinda situation, got panicked > and cut loss. > > Most traders can't see the difference between DONE > vs WITHDRAWN. All they > see (and belief) is that the BID/OFFERS are GONE. > They THOUGHT they were TRX > DONE, but the fact is most of the time they were > WITHDRAWN (either partially > or completely) > > That's just an example on how to drive the market > prices. > > It's difficult to see (for average retail traders) > to see what the "real" > transactions are (especially in high frequency > orders). Most of > Institutional dealer use special tools to do this > (like > LatentZero/RoyalBlue/Fidessa or Bloomberg TOMS and > some more sophisticated > and exotic tools).* > > I'm not going to get technical (since I'm not a > dealer myself), maybe > someone here can help me about this?. I remember > someone mentioned about > Mechanical Trading. If you want to know about it, I > suggest try google first > :) > > Ok, may be you ask "why'd they need that?" > > Simple. These robots KNOW ABOUT TECHNICAL, from > simple trendline to the most > complex formula. They monitor money flow, regional > markets, futurues, cmdy > prices, fundamentals, currencies even rumors, news > and running trades. They > can mix any kind of information, and give the best > price to be ordered. They > literally can READ market psychology, and most of > the "core" logic are to be > CONTRARIAN. > > That's why I said that I don't trade. I set target. > Cuz, that's what I do, > and I just let these robots do my command. Compared > to "mature" market like > those in Wall Street, IDX market capitalization are > very small. It's very EASY > to move it up and down. > > One of the real example of Mechanical Trading effect > was the Dotcom Crash in > 2000, August 07 global crash, and the recent > commodity bubble crash. > > The firms who used these tools have virtually > unlimited resources (aka > Money) to get what they want, and they're working > not just in IDX, but in > all markets in the world. Maybe this sounds like a > science fiction for some. > But this is real. Don't ever try to beat these > machines. Well, actually I > don't have anything else to explain, since you > (Embah) and Oentoeng are > already know and aware of it. (Why the hell am I > telling you this, I'm > killing myself..lol) > > Oh, fyi we work in groups. > > Now, is there any question so far, kids? > > Elaine > > > > > > On 3/24/08, jsx_consultant > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Pak Ontoeng udah kasih opini JANTAN terbuka.. > salute to you... > > > > Kita tunggu apa EL berani ngasih opini JANTAN juga > ??? > > > > Embah pengen tahu apakah DIDALAM strong character > EL, juga > > ada KEBERANIAN untuk bicara secara JANTAN (= > GAMBLANG dan JELAS) > > tanpa pake: kode kodean lah, barrier lah... > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > > "oentoeng_qq" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > P. Rei... > > > > > > Katanya Elaine khan MARCH MADNESS, saya baru > inget kl bulan MARET > > > ini belon berakhir. > > > Trus saya kok feeling ama ketawa EL itu agak > aneh gitu... > > > Saya perhatikan hari ini kok byk yg "rebutan > jualan"... > > > Kayaknya BIG TSUNAMI sudah dekat nih... > > > > > > Saya tunggu seminggu ini deh, semoga lekas > datang biar JELAS > > > sekalian. > > > Ntar malem, moga2 di mimpi saya keluar tgl dan > harinya KAPAN? > > > Kayak nomer togel aja yah, hahaha.... > > > Kalau belon keluar paling lambat saya tunggu > sampe awal bulan depan! > > > > > > Karena BIG TSUNAMI kalau keluar beneran target > 2000 akan NYAMPE! > > > So...be careful ajalah! > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > > Rei <highwaystar91@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Maksudnya apa pak Oen? > > > > Bingung nih kalo ngomongnya pake istilah2 > begini yg hanya > > > dimengerti beberapa pihak saja...ini milis kan > isinya org2 biasa > > > jadi jadikanlah kami juga bagian dari > pertunjukan anda, jangan > > > eksklusif buat pihak2 tertentu saja :D > > > > > > > > > > > > oentoeng_qq <oentoeng_qq@> wrote: > > > > Yang jelas Elaine akan menyelesaikan MARCH > MADNESSnya > > di > > > MINGGU INI. > > > > Kalau liat ketawanya yg kayak kuntilanak, > mestinya penantian ini > > > > nggak akan lama. > > > > > > > > Tunggu saja AKSInya... > > > > MENTAL sudah tidak berdaya, tapi KAKI masih > kuat berdiri khan? > > > > Ya nggak El? > > > > Hehehe.... > > > > > > > > > ----- Pesan Asli ---- > > > > > Dari: Elaine <you.can.call.me.elaine@> > > > > > Kepada: > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Terkirim: Senin, 24 Maret, 2008 13:23:39 > > > > > Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas BULL > TRAP! > > > > > > > > > > hihi no more free lunch.. you're on your own > now. Don't be too > > > > dependent to Elaine, use your own analysis... > come on, you're > > good > > > > trader, right? How could you believe me more > than your own > > > > analysis..lol. . > > > > > > > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find > them fast with > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
