OOO... bukan tho... iya sich... temen2ku tidak ada yg bisa bikin valuasi sepintar anda, mereka cuma bisa baca buku doang... saya juga klo denger kata vivid suka teringat ama jenna jameson, terra patrick... udah ah,,,, kembali ke saham....
Pada tanggal 26/03/08, kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: > > ah masa.. kampus sayah 2-2nya kaga ada galerinya dah perasaan.. mang > bung vivid anak mana(kenapa saya ko ngeres tiap nyebut vivid > terlintasnya yg engga2 yah..) anak fe ui kali yah? yg ada > danareksanya kan di situh.. bukan saya bukan anak ui cuman emang > sering jg kesono (minjem buku di perpus FE uhuy sambil temu-kangen > sama gebetan2.. kekekekekekk ;P) > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > thn 98 kelas 1 smp??? jangan2 kmu adik kelasku ya?? yg dulu suka > nongkrong > > di gallery danareksa > > > > Pada tanggal 26/03/08, kang_ocoy_maen_saham > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > menulis: > > > > > > Cheers., Baru balik dr INCO (gak ding abis ngecengin anak ATMA, > di > > > INCOnya sih cuman bentar sekedar ambil materi doank ;P,). dr > materi > > > laporan direksi en komisaris sih gada note yg terlalu spesial yah. > > > hanya saya lihat di data cadangan aja yg kudu aga di UNDERLINE > dikit. > > > perubahan studi tentang cadangan terbukti (proven reserves ato > > > cadangan dgn degree certainty yg cukup baik). cadangannya turun 11 > > > juta Ton jd 80 jt Ton. by current stripping ratio yg kira2 5-5.3 > > > juta ton skrg umur sustainity operasi INCO kalo yg dipake proven > > > reserves aja deteorate 2 tahun., jd palingan 15 Tahun Operasi > Minimal > > > cuman dr estimate Proven Reserves. ini efeknya ke continuity > value di > > > FCF Model yg harus sedikit dipangkas buat ngadjust figure > sustainity > > > operasi yg slightly decreasing ini... > > > > > > Geez, ttg kapitalisme., (but thanx anyway for "meluruskan" > pemahaman > > > saya yg CETEK ini.. tp saya berterimakasih jg buat pak Mr W4W krn > ini > > > jg bisa jd counter perspective atas pemikiran dan perasaan saya > > > tentang sistem dimana dunia bergerak skrg, this is how our world > > > goes. money makes it go round...) > > > > > > capitalism = free market., it create and rely on speculator and > > > market player to adjust and balanced the market. (In Theory). > Yea, so > > > seperti saya bilang most of people would be agree that any > loophole > > > or chances on financial system that exploited by Speculator or > Player > > > could be seen just as OKAY and ROUTINE as Cars Passing By On > Sudirman > > > Street., Okay. im not referring to player at my or u or any common > > > investor/trader calibre. Imagine that u were A player at Millions > or > > > Billions USD Calibre. > > > > > > Spotting and Judging for opportunities on financial system Can Be > > > Done and Its Okay, - Taking Position by that Judgment can Be done > and > > > Its Okay, - Double or Triple even 10th times Leveraging Ur > Position > > > to direct and betting on ur strategy Can be done and Its Okay. > > > Profiting For them is common and ABSOLUTULEY OKAY! > > > > > > Rite??, that is Common and should be widely and Open-arms > accepted... > > > > > > yea, coba tambahin kalimat "Even if many people is suffers, > economy > > > brokedown, people lost lives, many dad turn jobless, many kids > dont > > > have their right to be educated well... and so and so" sehabis > > > frase "Profiting from them (the bet) Is Okay",... > > > > > > kenapa saya bilang saya inget 98 dan inget waktu kelas 1 smp??.. > > > karena saat itu 2 sobat saya di kelas Berhenti Sekolah buat bantu > > > bapaknya jualan (bapaknya di PHK), saya masih inget itu. Amerika > > > kocar-kacir krn banyak org jobless gara2 Credit Crunch., hah > berapa > > > banyak orang percentage of People yg jobless bahkan susah idup > waktu > > > krisis dulu??. saya ga bilang saya anti kapitalis., its odd to say > > > that when i work and live from this field. i just say "sampe skrg > > > saya ga pernah bisa "feel-okay" ketika hal-hal macem eksploitasi > > > loophole dalam sistem keuangan pasar bebas dan hefty profiting for > > > them IN EXPENSE OF OTHER PEOPLE ON SUFFERS. dibangga2kan dan > > > tertawa2.. geez it feels aching man., coba jd mereka., tukang > > > gorengan bingung kenapa hidup makin susah, minyak jg mahal., Go > and > > > Say "sistem pasar bebas dan ini adalah mekanisme pasar, ato ini > > > penting untuk adjust balance dalam pasar" ke mereka., geez Man. > > > C'mon. buat teman2 di US ato yg hidupnya wealthy mungkin ini bukan > > > masalah besar., mainly mungkin krn "they were not walking on our > > > shoes". ini bisa dimengerti juga sih., for them its just an > ordinary > > > and routine way of how world should be going. tp saya even skrg > kerja > > > di dunia finansial masih ga bisa "connect" jg dengan konsepsi > seperti > > > itu. bukannya apa2 sih., Cuman Berharap Semuanya Bisa Dijalankan > > > Lebih Adil... > > > > > > and oh u presents me name like Warren Buffet, Bill Gtaes, Steve > Jobs. > > > > > > mungkin buat mengimbangi bisa dibaca artikel2 tentang kejahatan > > > korporasi. gausah jauh2 deh., itu freeport, itu shell di nigeria > (ga > > > heran disana pada rusuh). ato pada tataran yg lebih "sopan dan > umum" > > > deh, INCO jual Nikel per juta ton dengan harga rata2 $29881 dan > net > > > margin 50% ato setara cash $14940 per Ton, produksinya dy 76 ribu > > > ton. tapi bapak tau ga royalti yg dibayar per ton??.. > > > > > > hehe, at best cuma $78 doank. > > > > > > Nah yg ini aja masih level "lunak" loh... > > > > > > okay capitalism stand still and are getting wealthier (stronger)., > > > but at the expense of "weak" side's suffers. c'mon, everything > should > > > be a little more fair kan buat orang2 kayak "slamet" yg bahkan ga > tau > > > apa itu long equity apa itu short equity apa itu bubble apa itu > > > kontraksi. yg mereka tau hidup mereka makin hari makin susah... > > > > > > > On 3/26/08, mr_w4w <mr_w4w@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalo yg ambil untung singkat itu bukan Kapitalis Kang, tapi > > > > > SPEKULATOR ... > > > > > > > > > > Perlu diluruskan tuh pemahaman kang OCOY .. > > > > > > > > > > Kapitalis Sejati itu kayak Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Ford, > > > > > Rockefeller, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos dan 2 pendiri google itu > > > > > siapa ??? > > > > > > > > > > Intinya create long term value for society gitu loh ... > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > MR_W4W > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > <obrolan-bandar% > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" > > > > > <kang_ocoy_maen_saham@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > haha engga pak.. cuman suka keusik ga sih pak.. buat > sebagian > > > orang > > > > > > itu hefty profit by exploit weakness ato loophole di sistem > > > > > finansial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com > > > > > -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
