I definitely think that if it gets shut (which I tend to favour) then it should NOT be in an irreversible manner. I also think that Catherine White has a good point about the school kids. Could we ask the school (now closed, unfortunately) to find out how many of their learners do use it on a regular basis?
One question not yet addressed is whether closing it will in fact make much difference to the crime (as opposed to the grime!) - after all it's not very far to the next subway. I'd be interested in hearing local opinions on this. On Dec 14, 9:47 am, "Natalie Leon" <nata...@capetorichmond.com> wrote: > Hi Trevor (Ons Civiv) and David (Obs NW) > I probably missed this info, but was it the Wrensch rd subway where the > stabbing happenned last week? Either way, I have been using this subway > increasingly for social visits on the other side of Obs, becasue I felt > safer with VS patrols around. However, I feel that this will reamin a > dangerous place unless we have even more visibly patrolling in the Strubens > Rd, Milner Rd and allsubway areas. > Proposal > In the absence of this, I would be in favour of us (OBS Civic) making a > written application to Transnet for the closure of the subway (perhaps not > permanently as we live in the hope of one day being able to walk safely > again). The application route will be a more lengthy process, but > neccessary as people need a chance to object, (esp the Observatory school > whose pupils use it). > > I suggest we start with a small survey on the Obs civic website to ask if > people are against or for the Obs civic to apply for the closure of the > site. I think we could gather enough evidence of incidents of attacks to > accommpany such an application (I personally know of two incidents in the > last year and can get their written support). If we do the survey as > proposed, plse encourage your friends to vote. by sending them the > electronic link. > Thanks > Natalie----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Swart" <h...@polka.co.za> > To: <obsnw@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [obsnw] Wrensch Road Subway-Close it, or not? > > >I agree with you Brian, but feel that internet should foot the bill, They > > have far more than we do. We can beautify the area afterwards. > > > H > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Big Brian" <gra...@iafrica.com> > > To: "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" <obsnw@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:36 PM > > Subject: [obsnw] Wrensch Road Subway-Close it, or not? > > >> This dank, dark and dirty rat-hole called a subway, beneath the > >> railway line, should, in my opinion, be closed permanently. What do > >> you think? Close it off at both ends and it is no longer an escape > >> route for criminals. > >> The OCA has the funds to do so. Quite frankly, it serves no purpose, > >> other than a repository for human waste. > >> Arguments for and against my proposed closure of the "subway" are > >> encouraged. > >> Let us hear opinions from both sides of the railway line. > >> What do you say? > >> In my opinion, it offers criminals an easy escape route from the > >> police, it is used as a latrine by the homeless, it is not maintained > >> by Metrorail or intersite and it is a dumping site. There is no need > >> for a subway that is so far from the Obs Station. It serves no > >> purpose, other than Little Red Riding Hood going to visit Granny and > >> being accosted by the Big Bad Wolf. > >> Shut it down. > >> Brian Gray > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to obsnw@googlegroups.com > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> obsnw-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to obsnw@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > obsnw-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. To post to this group, send email to obsnw@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to obsnw-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en
