we tried out of interest and on xtra with the it didn't take long at all -
the box arrived with an early home oem version - when we reghosted the box
then tried without downloading of updates because more bandwidth the variety
of virus was greater (on the third attempt - the box crashed with blaster
the first two times). I am sure we turned the firewall on
Maurice

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Maurice,

No offence, but I believe that statement to be incorrect.

All the references that I believe you are referring to (the SANS
institute report, etc.) do not mention switching on the firewall.  That
report was based on their studying of probes from the Internet which
they deemed to be risky to a fresh XP machine out of the box.  Nowhere
have I seen that report mentioned where they talk about switching on the
firewall.

In fact, the SANS institute have a document
(http://www.sans.org/rr/papers/index.php?id=1298) which specifically
talk you through how to get a fresh XP PC to survive its first day, and
one of the steps is to turn on the XP firewall.

Cheers,

C.

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If you take a new PC with windoze xp straight out of the box and turn on
it's firewall then start downloading the windoze updates, since it was
shipped, you will have a virus within 20 minutes which is shorter than
the updates take to download on a modem.

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