Al Hopper wrote: > The current effort, while being fully collaborative, suffers from a > few *deficiencies*: > > a) its not accurate > b) its not updated frequently enough to remain useful > c) there are now, by my math, 3 sites that must be consulted to try to > find out what the current status of the 2008 elections are: > > 1) the wiki at: > http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/2008_OGB_Election_candidates > > 2) the defect.opensolaris.org facility, which some are trying to use > (overload in object oriented programming lingo) as a forum to track > election status - by filing *bugs*??!! Are they serious? An > incredibly bad idea IMHO. > > 3) grep through the obg-discuss lists and figure it out yourself. > > d) its not officially sanctioned by the OGB as a definitive source of > election related information. > > Conclusion: there is no *official*, OGB sanctioned source of current > OGB election related information - leaving the election wide open to > some (possibly disgruntled) voter who makes a claim/challenge that > he/she "did'nt know that person X was even up for election" ... etc, etc. > > A *personal* view of how effective this collaborative OGB election > tracking system is: > > a) After seeing the first cut of the wiki stutus page announced on > ogb-discuss I found that an individual, with the initials "Al Hopper", > was nowhere to be found. Despite the fact that he was nominated early > in the process here [2]. So, I added this individual to the wiki. :) > > b) After seeing the announcement from Steve L that a new tracking > mechanism was added, and noticing, yet again, that an individual, with > the *initials* "Al Hopper" was not present, I added this individual to > the defect.opensolaris.org *bug* *reporting* tool. > > c) 24 hours later, is this individual present on the Steve L tracking > page? No. What about after 36 hours? No. > > Request to the OGB: Please provide a tracking facility for the OGB > 2008 Elections that has the following characteristics: > > i) it provides one-stop-shopping to allow *any* voting member *one* > place to go to review *all* election releated information for the 2008 > OGB elections > > ii) it provides accurate, current and reasonably complete status. > > iii) it is officially sanctioned as the definitive source of election > related material and should be monitored closely by anyone with a > vested interest for accuracy. Especially those seeking election. > > iv) it may or may not be collaborative - depending on whether or not > you feel that this is a useful attribute of a single, definitive, > source of current, accurate and official OGB election 2008 related > information. > > PS: Thankfully, I'm not the only one who considers bugzilla to be an > odd solution to a simple problem: Shawn Walker writes: "Can I just > state for the record that I think using BugZilla to track nominees > seems odd? :)" ref [3] > > [1] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2008-February/004927.html > > [2] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2008-February/004702.html > > [3] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2008-February/004875.html > Hi Al, The page I put together *only* extracts from the Bugzilla tool. I wasn't aware that the Wiki page existed. Regarding your:
b) After seeing the announcement from Steve L that a new tracking mechanism was added, and noticing, yet again, that an individual, with the *initials* "Al Hopper" was not present, I added this individual to the defect.opensolaris.org *bug* *reporting* tool. I'm afraid I don't see your CR in defect.opensolaris.org. My page only extracts from the ogb product under the 'nominations' component. I'm looking at: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Community&product=ogb&component=nominations&target_milestone=2008&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&deadlinefrom=&deadlineto=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=INCOMPLETE&bug_status=ACCEPTED&bug_status=CAUSEKNOWN&bug_status=FIXUNDERSTOOD&bug_status=FIXINPROGRESS&bug_status=FIXINSOURCE&bug_status=FIXINBUILD&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Which should show all the CRs tracked under that, but I'm afraid I don't see it. If it showed up there, then it should show up in the tracker page I created. cheers, steve -- stephen lau | stevel at opensolaris.org | www.whacked.net
