On Mar 3, 2008, at 00:03, Stephen Lau wrote:

> Al Hopper wrote:
>> The current effort, while being fully collaborative, suffers from a
>> few *deficiencies*:
>>
>> a) its not accurate
>> b) its not updated frequently enough to remain useful
>> c) there are now, by my math, 3 sites that must be consulted to try  
>> to
>> find out what the current status of the 2008 elections are:
>>
>> 1) the wiki at:
>> http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/2008_OGB_Election_candidates
>>
>> 2) the defect.opensolaris.org facility, which some are trying to use
>> (overload in object oriented programming lingo) as a forum to track
>> election status - by filing *bugs*??!!  Are they serious?  An
>> incredibly bad idea IMHO.
>>
>> 3) grep through the obg-discuss lists and figure it out yourself.
>>
>> d) its not officially sanctioned by the OGB as a definitive source of
>> election related information.
>>
>> Conclusion: there is no *official*, OGB sanctioned source of current
>> OGB election related information - leaving the election wide open to
>> some (possibly disgruntled) voter who makes a claim/challenge that
>> he/she "did'nt know that person X was even up for election" ...  
>> etc, etc.
>>
>> A *personal* view of how effective this collaborative OGB election
>> tracking system is:
>>
>> a) After seeing the first cut of the wiki stutus page announced on
>> ogb-discuss I found that an individual, with the initials "Al  
>> Hopper",
>> was nowhere to be found.  Despite the fact that he was nominated  
>> early
>> in the process here [2].  So, I added this individual to the wiki. :)
>>
>> b) After seeing the announcement from Steve L that a new tracking
>> mechanism was added, and noticing, yet again, that an individual,  
>> with
>> the *initials* "Al Hopper" was not present, I added this individual  
>> to
>> the defect.opensolaris.org *bug* *reporting* tool.
>>
>> c) 24 hours later, is this individual present on the Steve L tracking
>> page?  No.  What about after 36 hours?  No.
>>
>> Request to the OGB:  Please provide a tracking facility for the OGB
>> 2008 Elections that has the following characteristics:
>>
>> i) it provides one-stop-shopping to allow *any* voting member *one*
>> place to go to review *all* election releated information for the  
>> 2008
>> OGB elections
>>
>> ii) it provides accurate, current and reasonably complete status.
>>
>> iii) it is officially sanctioned as the definitive source of election
>> related material and should be monitored closely by anyone with a
>> vested interest for accuracy.  Especially those seeking election.
>>
>> iv) it may or may not be collaborative - depending on whether or not
>> you feel that this is a useful attribute of a single, definitive,
>> source of current, accurate and official OGB election 2008 related
>> information.
>>
>> PS: Thankfully, I'm not the only one who considers bugzilla to be an
>> odd solution to a simple problem: Shawn Walker writes: "Can I just
>> state for the record that I think using BugZilla to track nominees
>> seems odd? :)" ref [3]
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2008-February/004927.html
>>
>> [2]
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2008-February/004702.html
>>
>> [3]
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2008-February/004875.html
>>
> Hi Al,
> The page I put together *only* extracts from the Bugzilla tool.  I
> wasn't aware that the Wiki page existed.  Regarding your:
>
> b) After seeing the announcement from Steve L that a new tracking
> mechanism was added, and noticing, yet again, that an individual, with
> the *initials* "Al Hopper" was not present, I added this individual to
> the defect.opensolaris.org *bug* *reporting* tool.
>
> I'm afraid I don't see your CR in defect.opensolaris.org.  My page  
> only
> extracts from the ogb product under the 'nominations' component.  I'm
> looking at:
> http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Community&product=ogb&component=nominations&target_milestone=2008&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&deadlinefrom=&deadlineto=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=INCOMPLETE&bug_status=ACCEPTED&bug_status=CAUSEKNOWN&bug_status=FIXUNDERSTOOD&bug_status=FIXINPROGRESS&bug_status=FIXINSOURCE&bug_status=FIXINBUILD&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
> Which should show all the CRs tracked under that, but I'm afraid I  
> don't
> see it.  If it showed up there, then it should show up in the tracker
> page I created.
>
>

I think you are missing all the ones with an unspecified target date.  
Try this search:
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Community&product=ogb&component=nominations&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&deadlinefrom=&deadlineto=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=INCOMPLETE&bug_status=ACCEPTED&bug_status=CAUSEKNOWN&bug_status=FIXUNDERSTOOD&bug_status=FIXINPROGRESS&bug_status=FIXINSOURCE&bug_status=FIXINBUILD&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=

S.




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