On Feb 13, 2008 6:24 PM, Shawn Walker <swalker at opensolaris.org> wrote: > On Feb 13, 2008 8:02 PM, Martin Bochnig <mb1x at gmx.com> wrote: > > > And don't pretend that you know what happened on day one better than > > > anyone else, most of the people involved in this discussion were also > > > there on launch day or /very/ shortly thereafter. To state otherwise > > > is simply revisionist history in the worst sense of the word. > > > > > > In fact most, if not all, people here are using Solaris for a *way* longer > > time, than Shawn does (2005, if I remember correctly, before 2005 Debian, > > before Debian DR-DOS, before DR-DOS MacOS ? ). > > That's true and I have always said that. It's also plainly stated on > my blog. However, I tend to think that's why my perspective is much > closer to the average user, and especially to the group of developers > that Sun is trying to attract. > > I don't have the emotional baggage that some of you have from years of > using Solaris before version 10 :) (joking!!!) > > In the end, if you look at every other successful open source project, > a corporation is behind them and they use the trademark very > successfully. > > Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. all use a trademark owned by a corporation and > all of them are supported by a corporation. They are also very > successful. I see a similar model being a necessity for OpenSolaris. > > > But IF SMI calls something "OpenSolaris", THEN it must stay (or ever > > become) OPEN solaris. The name is what I have the problem with. I mean, > > okay: Sun really has opened up very very much of the previously closed > > proprietary code and processes. But did they do so by choice? Did they do > > so to do their strong loyal community "a favour" ?? Or were they forced by > > circumstances. It doesn't look driven entirely full-heartedly. > > > > Why must it do anything other than what the trademark holder and > (apparently) many users want it to do? >
Let's aside for the moment Sun's marketing department and their handling of trademarks to date ( Sun Java System iPlanet ONE OpenSolaris Enterprise Edition ) and focus just on the current trademark. You invoke the names "Ubuntu" "Fedora" et al. All of which are... Linux. Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, etc. Why then can't OpenSolaris remain what it is, the trademark analogous with the "Linux" trademark. ( and "because sun has legal rights over it" isn't an argument. Again, we all know this. We're arguing morality, not legality ) -- PGP Public Key 0x437AF1A1 Available on hkp://pgp.mit.edu
