On 04/14/09 23:43, Jim Walker wrote:
> John Plocher wrote:
>> Finally, I updated the agenda
>> (http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php?title=2009_04_16_OGB_Agenda)
>
> Peter. Thanks for getting the ball rolling.
>
> Thanks John. I added my motions and amendments.
>
> BTW.
> The Current Items 1. Roles and Priorities in it's present form
> doesn't work for me and I don't have any suggestions at the
> moment on how to change it so it does work for me.

Does this idea make more sense if I put it in the context of what you 
can effectively communicate out to the greater community? You said in 
your candidate statement that you want to continue to work on leveraging 
resources so contributors and users have what they need to be 
successful. So, I'm just asking you here to tell us specifics about the 
resources you're working on and what needs they'll support.

> I think Michelle's proposal may have merit, but I
> don't see the need or advantage of assigning responsibilities
> in this manner. 

The advantage is that you take some ownership of communicating the 
benefits of the new resources and how the wider ecosystem can take 
advantage of them. You can also bring understanding and visibility to 
the current limitations, let people in on the 'known problems' and where 
best to discuss new ideas, for example.

 This idea is all about being a spokesperson to the world (role) about 
all the cool stuff we're doing in the key areas (priorities). If people 
know your role, they can ask you questions because you are a leader, not 
just a web page with instructions they might not understand fully.

I'm asking you to take a first step by agreeing to own an area and make 
a communication plan that others can share in. Then, put the items from 
your plan on the calendar so we can all join in what you're 
doing/talking/testing/porting/packaging.

If we decide we don't have cycles to do any of these leadership types of 
things (this isn't strictly governance), that is perfectly fine too, but 
I want to set that expectation with the community right away.

> True. I am doing the things listed and
> more, and may tend to bring voice to those areas during
> OGB meetings, but I am also ready to go beyond these
> areas for the OGB and the OpenSolaris Community as
> needed and open to areas not considered yet (ie.
> don't fence me in, I'm born to be wild ;) 

Get your motor runnin'! :) I only picked packaging as a guess, it could 
be anything you want to do that you have some sense is a priority for 
the greater community. The point is to agree in advance to do a few 
things this year as a spokesperson for a key area to increase 
transparency and overall communication about that area. The benefit is 
that the greater community knows about this in advance, has the 
expectation that new information it is coming, can more easily get 
involved in it, can prepare questions for you, and participate fully.

> I agree our
> term is short and it would be cool if we had
> concrete objectives we attempted to accomplish during
> it, but I think we need to start with the objectives
> before we get to the roles and priorities.

Agreed, thanks for patiently helping me to understand where I'm doing 
'cart-before-the-horse' here...

The whole objective is to increase communication. Many of us, myself 
included, campaigned on a platform to "increase communication". So, my 
goal is to define the actual plan for increasing communication in the 
key areas by assigning the areas to owners and agreeing to lead a few 
new efforts in those areas to get the word out beyond just words on the 
pages of a web site.

This might mean making a few additional announcements, or public 
speaking, organizing meetups or code jams, personal blogging, posting 
podcasts, or training outsiders in your area of expertise, so they can 
go to conferences and talk about it with their network.

OGB is a main channel of communication between the sponsor and the 
community, many many things that are clear to you are opaque to everyone 
else who wants to participate. So, I'd like us to plan and own the areas 
where we want to increase communication to the benefit of all. This is 
not ownership of implementation, it is communication of what we're doing 
in more venues than just the the web pages.

>
> I also added the OGB Calender and OGB Suggestion wiki
> to Future Items.

Thanks!
Michelle

>
> Cheers,
> Jim
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