On Nov 2, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > On 02/11/2007, Roy T. Fielding <fielding at gbiv.com> wrote: >> On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Glynn Foster wrote: >>> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>>> 1) Inform all three of Indiana's sponsoring communities about the >>>> release >>>> plans requirement of the constitution. >>> >>> Awesome, yet another way of slowing down getting software to our >>> users. Anything >>> else we can do to get in the way? >> >> If you had initiated the project within a community that was scoped >> for building a distribution, then that decision would have been made >> already and by the very same people who did the work to produce the >> software. >> >> I told you this at the time the project was proposed, and you ignored >> it to satisfy the immediate desire of the internal marketing team >> at Sun. Don't blame anyone else for these problems -- they are >> entirely manufactured by your refusal to accept community input from >> day one, and they will continue until the organization reflects the >> reality of how you intend to govern this project (one way or >> another). > > Sorry, but that's wrong. There is currently nothing in the > constitution that stipulates that projects must live under a certain > community. Your claim otherwise is surprising given you drafted the > constitution.
Please, get a grip. The constitution has requirements on documented scope, that all activity be within that scope, and that all projects be managed by a community with said scope. If there was a distro community in place, as suggested before, then it would already have discussed these issues and voted on them long before now. That is how open development works. Glynn was complaining about inefficiency of asking for external approval after the internal project group at Sun already did all of this work in private. It is an inefficiency that he and Ian created, against *everyone else's* advice, not something imposed by the constitution. If the project was being run as an OpenSolaris project, then none of these issues would have come to boil. ....Roy
