On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 09:43:51AM -0700, Stephen Lau wrote:
> Why not open a Virtualisation Community and create an LDoms project
> endorsed by the community?
I'm not sure that LDoms is really a project, either, though. It
doesn't seem to have the specificity or defined life span one would
expect from a project ("Improve LDoms to support XXX" is a project,
though).
What is the source of the opposition to proposals I've made (and I
believe Ben Rockwood and perhaps others have had similar suggestions)
that open-ended efforts of this type be represented as working groups
or committees within a Community Group? Before someone jumps in with
"Needless Bureaucracy!!! Nyah!" let me emphasize that the CG could
set this up however it likes - there's no reason it needs to entail
bureaucracy. It could be as simple a thing as a group of CG members
interested in LDoms maintaining some web pages and choosing whether to
sponsor projects. In other words, it could easily be the simple,
lightweight subcommunity that people seem to want.
The question I'd like to see answered here is not whether establishing
an LDoms CG would be expedient (it certainly would) but whether the
people working on LDoms, Xen, Zones, and other virtualisation efforts
see their respective worldviews as being so wildly incompatible and
irreconcilable that a CG encompassing them all would be a deadlocked
cesspool of strife. Because if not, I'd like to see them agree on a
unification plan and move forward; the opportunity is compelling to
think about virtualisation management and using these technologies
together as well as making sure all the gaps between them are filled.
If no one from these other CGs is willing to work on this so that the
LDoms people can move forward, I guess that says something about the
answer to this question. But I'd like to be sure that unification is
technically infeasible before approving more pseudo-CGs consisting
entirely of Sun product teams who've been told by management that they
need to "form a community" and thus need web pages on which to dump
their source code. LDoms team, forgive me if this is an unfair
characterisation in this case, but this is what the broader picture
looks like right now. Perhaps we (the OGB) should think about ways
for people with newly-opened source to attract a community that could
fulfill the actual intent of the Community Group - there's definitely
a "can't get there from here" aspect to this, and I realise that's
frustrating.
--
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