"Holger Berger" <holger.s.berger at googlemail.com> writes:

> On 9/14/07, Stephen Lau <stevel at sun.com> wrote:
>> Holger Berger wrote:
>> > On 9/14/07, Brandorr <brandorr at opensolaris.org> wrote:
>> >> On 8/31/07, Keith M Wesolowski <keith.wesolowski at sun.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 11:36:22AM -0700, Chris Quenelle wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The tools-discuss alias has a fair amount of non-compiler traffic.  I'm 
>> >>>> subscribed,
>> >>>> but I don't get a chance to go through the email every day. If there 
>> >>>> was a
>> >>>> tools-compilers (for Sun Studio and gcc) or something similar, I think 
>> >>>> I'd
>> >>>> be able to respond to it more quickly.  And I might be able to get some 
>> >>>> other
>> >>>> Sun engineers in my area to sign up.  I also subscribe to all the 
>> >>>> horrible
>> >>>> "forum updated" emails, but I plow through those even less frequently
>> >>>> than I check the tools-discuss alias emails.
>> >>> It's fine with me to roll this into (and rename) the tools-gcc list,
>> >>> which is very low-traffic now that the gcc work is done.
>> >> +1 for tools-compilers
>> >
>> > +1 for tools-compilers
>>
>> -1
>>
>> This is not a Sun Studio support forum.  I feel your pain, I really do -
>> if the Sun Studio forums suck, then either:
>> a) complain to Sun about it
>
> I already did that FOUR years ago, via email, phone and FAX, and so did 
> others.
> It appears that Sun management is either unwilling or just incompetent
> to get a plain mailing list set up.

Not our problem, that's Studio's domain entirely.

We are not Sun, we are not Sun's developer products group.

>> b) start your own
>
> I am asking Opensolaris.org to start their own list to mitigate the
> problems caused by the unusable Sun Studio web forum software and to
> fill the need for a compiler related discussion forum.

Studio isn't opensolaris, we are not studio.  We are not an
appropriate set of people to aid people with studio problems where
those problems don't directly relate to its use for opensolaris development. 

>> Don't dilute OpenSolaris' already existing forums with more that aren't
>> relevant.  The tools-discuss list is already setup for
>> OpenSolaris-related tools discussion.  Anything non-OpenSolaris related
>> should go to a proper Sun Studio forum, not here.
>
> Is Sun Studio a compiler supported by Opensolaris?
> [ ] yes
> [ ] no

You can use it to build, we don't support it in the formal sense.  (we
don't support *anything* in the formal sense).

> I think if Sun Studio isn't worth a mailing list at opensolaris.org
> then you should just drop support for it.

See above.

-- Rich

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