--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 4/9/2004 2:36:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > Basically, anything that isn't a rule can be closed.
> 
> I think this is unclear.  Read the definition of OGC.  Note that it doesn't 
> say that mechanics are merely open, but the entire work the license is
> attached  to, everything.  PI is excepted from this requirement.

No, that's just wrong.  Only that which is declared open is open.  PI is
always closed, whether it's inside a declared open area or not.

> PI can include language and ideas.  Probably can then include rules and
> there verbatim expression.

It can, but in the context of the SRD, if there's anything in the rule that
connects it to the SRD, which is all open, then it is not owned but derived,
and therefore must be open.

> So, maybe you could PI a rules system you have patented.

Yes, but getting a game rule patented is going to be VERY hard and probably
not worth the effort and expense.

>  Can you PI a rule 
> under any other circumstances?  Maybe.

Not one that incorporates any of the concepts of the SRD, not one that makes
ANY reference to OGC material.  In other words, it would have to exist
independently of all other OGC material... a very strange thing to include.

You could make a rule that says, "All sneds and greebles gain one fregmier at
the beginning of the yurgetmar," and make it closed content, but if the
existing OGC doesn't mention sneds, greebles, fregmiers or yurgetmars, it
might as well not be in there because it's going to be useless.

>  It depends on what standards of 
> "ownership" are required by the OGL.

There are none, but I think it would be hard going to show that a particular
rule had the requisite level of innovation for a patent.



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