Mark, what I'm saying isn't that it can't be used away from the d20 system,
but if you think it's not going to be associated that way you're mistaken.
To most people--publishers or customers--who know enough to even know what
you're talking about when you say "OGL", "d20" is the next thought that pops
into their head. If you're trying to brand away from that, you're not just
working to create a new branding, but you're also going to have to undo
existing branding. That makes it doubly difficult.
And people here may not like to hear negativity, but I think saying "wow,
that logo rocks on toast and would totally kick ass as a way to communicate
the OGL concept!" just because people don't want to hear anything to the
contrary is a total waste of everyone's time. Yours and mine. I'm offering
you comments based on what I've learned after a decade of helping some of
the world's largest companies with their branding and marketing while
working as a market researcher, just as others bring up legal questions
because there are lawyers on the list who can offer up their professional
opinion. If you don't want to hear that because the feedback is negative and
rains on your predisposed conclusions about what your logo is capable of
(and, indeed, even how it can be functionally be distributed), then why even
bring it up for discussion in an open forum to begin with? If I honestly
thought your logo achieved any of the goals you set for it, or if you were
putting forth the best possible way to spread it around to serve your stated
needs, you can be assured you'd have heard positive feedback from me.
Regards,
Steven Trustrum
President For Life (or until the money runs out)
Misfit Studios
http://www.misfit-studios.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
416-857-2433
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Clover
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:21 AM
To: ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.org
Subject: [Ogf-l] Re: OGL Logo
[Steven Trustrum] "Then the thing you need to consider, Mark, is which
of our goals is actually looking at what the people on the list here
are talking about: a feasible logo that could even attempt to fill the
shoes of the d20 logo in case of the latter's retraction."
Not as such. The discussion is about an OGL logo. Judging by the
emails received, I'm going to go ahead and state that at least some
people have interest in the one that I have already released, along
with the goals it embodies. I don't believe there can be an effective
replacement for the d20 logo and I don't use the d20 logo & license
anyway. I'd also suggest that a discussion about a replacement for
the d20 logo might be better suited on the sister list (ogf-d20-l@)
since that targets folks who use the d20 logo. Of course, that might
have just been your winking way of telling me to agree with you or to
shut up. I gotta say, though, that everytime I post to this list I
invariably get a bunch of emails from people who just don't want to
deal with the constant negativity and, so, never post here. Consider
that, please.
As always,
Mark Clover
www.CreativeMountainGames.com
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