> And yet Microsoft has (and has never had) *any* 
> problem with someone writing "Works with Microsoft
> Windows" on the outside of their box.  They in fact
> have two tiers of this - those who just wrote content
> and put it out can say "Runs on Microsoft Windows" - 
> and those who pay the License Fee and go through an
> approval process can use something like "Microsoft 
> Certified" (I am not clear on the exact details).  

I don't believe there's a license fee associated with either "Designed for Windows" or 
"Certified for Windows" programs. There is however a testing requirement which starts 
at around $5k. 

The example is still an interesting one and similar to what WotC is doing as far as 
trademarks go (but completely different wrt to copyrights.) 

You can use their basic D&D rulesystem (D20) absolutely free under the OGL, but you 
are not allowed to use the D&D or D20 trademarks (as long as your derived work is also 
free.) 

You can use their basic D&D rulesystem (D20) absolutely free AND use the D20 Trademark 
which identifies your work as D20 (and probably D&D) compatible absolutely free under 
the D20STL. 

And ultimately, you can use the complete D&D rulesystem (D&D 3e) AND use the 
associated D&D trademarks as long as you enter into the proper licensing agreement 
with Wizards with its associated fees and restrictions. (Though it would be far easier 
to shoot for a freelance contract, but then you're just a contract employee rather 
than the publisher. After all, how many non-TSR/WotC print RPG publications are there 
that have used the D&D brand/trademarks?)

It's all about the options, baby.

-Andrew
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