> defined) neither can be defined by the writer of a contract.  The two
> choices are either to use a reasonable person standard of clear indication
> or to specifically define how one must indicate OGC.  So yes the licences
> could specifically define how all OGC must be presented in any and all
> material types published using the license and not worry about the
> reasonable person standard at all.  Of course such a licences would become
> enormously cumbersome.

Alec, correct me if I'm wrong - but why it should be one way or the other? I recall 
there is
standard legal phrase "including but not limited to". If we simply add to current 
clause about clear
identification something like: "Textual material can be identified as OGC by any 
methods, including
but not limited to the following:...<3 methods>...Computer files and digital formats 
can be
identified as OGC by any methods, including but not limited to the following:...<3 
methods>...".That
will add 10 strings of text to the license at best.

In summary we had 3 statements from Ryan in past few days:
1) OGL is fine and don't need to be changed any time soon
2) There is no way to "cleary identify" binary/digital file as OGC
3) OGF objective is to promote the freedom to copy, modify and distribute game rules 
and material
that use those rules for benefit of community.

By using simple formal logic its easy to prove that only 2 statements from this list 
can be true at
same time. ( Ryan stated they all are currently true. )

Of course i hope to collect more data in our "d20-software" mini-poll (
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ur_lord/surveys?id=10072101 ) but even now results are
interesting.36.7% of respondents are actively engaged in d20 software development. 
Totally 63.6% of
respondents depend on using software tools (meaning - binary formats) as much as they 
depend on
books. Yet in same time, OGL is ill-suited to distribute computer formats, may be its 
even
impossible. Therefore OGL as it is now can serve only 36.4% percent of community or 
less. It serves
interests of minority at the expense of majority.

- Max




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