On 14/10/2013 14:49, Nikola M. wrote:
On 10/14/13 02:35 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
On 14/10/2013 14:23, Nikola M. wrote:
...
Just we need to understand, that it is actuall kiss-goodbye to any
binary compatibility of applications for Solaris and OI in the future.

Again, killing binary copmpatibility with commmerial software
IS the fastest way to kill OI and Illumos ...
I understand and support your case.

What do you think about that idea/project of providing zone brand
that could freeze state of libraries of OI, up to /dev version a7 or so,
....

No, I don't see how a zone should help here, for enterprise locations
like ours where commercial software is an integral part of the
production chain this makes no sense, this is a view of a few
home nas server people who have not used Solaris as their main OS
before in their business.

Before doing ANYTHING in preparation to break compatibilty, there
should be a proof that this actually has to happen, and I don't see
this now (the Flash case is some other bug, as far as I understand
it). First, all efforts should be made to keep compatibilty in the
main line while switching, and setting a LD_LIBRARY_PATH is OK if
necessary.

I checked our main commercial application (Exelis IDL), and it
depends C libraries only, so presumably switching to gcc should
not break it, and if so, it's a bug.

MongoDB also has a problem on a7 with delivered libstdc++ and
libgcc_s (but runs with another build of these libs from OpenCSW),
but that problem vanished on a8.

Of course, there's a lot other software out there (esp. backup
software, RAID managers etc.), as most of the OI/Illumos base
are enterprise users who left Oracle alone, so there should be
a check for this on the openindiana-discuss list and a thorough
testing with a a9 or a10 before doing a release (and I mean /release)
which could break things.
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