À dim. juil. 24 17:10:32 2016 GMT+0200, Nikola M a écrit : > On 07/24/16 04:34 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > > Bottom line is: you do not modify *existing* content without prior > > discussion. > > Neither adding NEW documents nor editing should go without discussion > In this case new page was added out of blue and it denied changing it > nad ther IS ongoin discussion on this list and that can held as that > here IS discussion as it is. > And people deserve to see changed document. > > > I reverted it to the state it should be. > > It surely is not in a state it should be.. > ..not your revering has a meaning, but contributing to it's contents has. > But if that is how you define it as protecting of random changes, I > won't change it no more as said. > > > Now discuss with people, agree on what should be on the Wiki and what > > should be on the Website, then we change the website page accordingly, does > > it not sound democratic ? ;) > > I exactly changed web page to the current state of the things on Wiki, > calling on being on topic and talk about text itself, and that is > actually working and people talk and contribute with questions, answers > and ideas. > > It is only democratic to pull the plug out of that page, showing that > unfunished undemocratic documents like that should not have democratic > support at all, promoting autoritarian rula and forcing it. > > Other then that, democratic way could be having links on that page > pointing to Wiki so people can contribute there, but I choosed to have > both of them presented concurrently, old useless one and newer rewriting > of it.
If work occurs on the Wiki then it is natural to point to it. > > Rules are broken by putting that document on site in the first place, so > deal with it however you want i showed how I dealt with it. > > > Putting the draft on the website > > Drafts should absolutely not be on the official website! > That is misuse of term draft and of the website. People expect finished > agreed and supported things on the site. > Maybe on sub-site where is expected to have various things in private > spaces etc. > > > may not have been the best solution but this is just a draft (hence > > "Proposed") > > Putting one word before "mandated" and forced document, doesn't makes > things any better, it is even obvious that it is mocking to viewers, > where minimal effort is needed to _force_ it by removing it. > It is again how dictatorships work, having always worst case scenario > ready and presented. > > > and at least it is visible and easy to read. > And is is grous misuse of community, let me not repeat myself.. > So it is visible, but updated one is not supposed to be visible.. > > > In any case you have no right to decide to modify this document > > unilateraly, so: > > So xenol does not have right to PUT it on the site unilaterally. > > And I have ALL right to change and rephrase and contribute improved > version as I did on wiki. You have the right to setup a workspace but modifying website content is subject to review. > > Plus I have rights on site to change documents, so why not I use them to > change? Because the rule on the website is: do not modify existing content without acknowledgement and review. > Xenol used it's right to change, by putting it, I don't see the > difference here. Adam created new content, you modified existing content. > > I just used my rights on site to change it , I already had and I also > made an effort to show differences in plainsight and put links and > explanations. > > I have all rights, I logged in I changed it I discussed fully before it, > I haven't received any valid reasons not to, and it is still discussed upon. > > > - we work on the drafts on the wiki with original version and your changes > > presented on one page each. > > That is obviously in the work, only think missing is that that bad > document of xenol is still on the site, frozen. > > > - Adam and Michael took your comment about the publication to the Wordpress > > into account into account, let them respond and we then modify the page > > accordingly. > > They are not elected in this community on any position, > Adfam and Michael do not rule in this community and I have no need to > wait for any of them for any decision, not only including this document. > > Document can't be mandated by them nor put in force without proper > procedures, > and any future web site changes xenol will try to pushg in (like "docs") > site, putting out broken 'poll' "results woithout user registration etc. > are void. > > At the top of that, no one can mandate and forbid to people to talk > discuss and contribute how they see fit or to stop changes. > This document precisely gags people form discussing and having basic > human freedoms, therefore putting it back online without notice that > hings ar emoving on forward put whole community in a wrong picture. > > > - the website stays off topic until we reach the final version of the > > document. > > > > Is it OK ? > > No it is not, because freezing that fascist document on site, pushes > people to believe that "power" over infrastructure is important here and > that "powerfull" can stop anyone else doing the right thing. > People tend to even say things without even looking, > and it is obvious that pushing document on the site is avoiding any > procedure and community effort and that is bad behaviour that tend to > spread. > As long it is there site is under occupation from that troll document. > > You can of course do whatever you want, it's always your free choice. Do you consider that the group of active developers steering the project misbehave by proposing a form of organisation to help OpenIndiana move forward? The need of a Code of Conduct was discussed within the group, ideas emerged and are thus proposed to the community. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. :) > > > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > oi-dev@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-de -- Thanks for sailing Jolla :) _______________________________________________ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
