+ 1 for Tom! =) 2014-10-13 20:39 GMT-03:00 Anna Daniel <[email protected]>:
> fyi > visa requirements per country: > http://www.projectvisa.com/fullcountrylist.asp > vaccination requirements per country: > http://www.travelvax.com.au/holiday-traveller/vaccination-requirements > :-) > > > Kind regards > Anna Daniel PhD > Information Policy, Griffith University > > Contact: Tel +617 3735 4007 / 0439 061 834 | [email protected] | > www.griffith.edu.au/copyright-matters > Location and postal address: Information Management, Griffith University > | Willett Centre (N53) 0.45P | 170 Kessels Road | Nathan Queensland 4111, > Australia > Disclaimer: this information is provided for general guidance only and > does not constitute legal advice. > > > > On 14 October 2014 03:53, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I want join this discussion later making more general comments, but I >> want to say a big +1 to moving OKFestival to other regions of the globe, if >> we want to becoe a really OKI, not an OK"I". I am aware of the big >> challenges this implies, but we should not fear challenges and I know we >> can tend to stay in the confort of our homes trying to change the world. >> That is pretty common with the engaged high middle class here in Brazil or >> those chair intellectuals (those intellectuals who create theories about >> the world from their desks) trying to solve social problems. >> >> Regardins visa policy in Brazil, it seems to be quite open as compared to >> several countries (some European friends are jeaulous when I tell I don't >> need a visa to go to Russia ;D): >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Brazil >> >> Europe is not the center of the world since a long time. >> >> P. S. [Off-topic] Once I saying as a joke (with some trutth behind it) >> about the bad location of Wikimedia Foundation office in San Francisco >> (awful timezone) whilst enjoying a shade in the northeast of Brazil. I >> still wonder, why not an office in the northeast of Brazil? :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Tom >> >> 2014-10-08 16:01 GMT-03:00 Rayna <[email protected]>: >> >> Hey all, >>> >>> Just a quick thought because we are all speaking of immigration >>> policies. It is unfortunately quite a mistake to consider that Europe >>> because of Schengen is the worst place on Earth. Africa is not much better: >>> visas are required for any country. Even though I am a European citizen, I >>> don't get that easily through. Visas are applied to other African nationals >>> too, for granting an entry to an African country. Personally, I am quite >>> uneasy spending money on visas (80 euros minimum for a visa to Ivory Coast >>> for instance); I am especially uneasy leaving my fingerprints and being >>> physically searched upon arrival and departure in African airports. >>> >>> I have no idea how it is handled in LatAm or Asia, but I fear there is >>> no safe haven :( >>> >>> As much as I would argue in favour of a non-Western location, I think >>> that very few of the actual community will be able to make it without >>> financial aid. And it might be far more expensive to take in charge >>> 6-10-hour flights for people, for example. >>> >>> I would thus argue in favour of Berlin for the 2015 edition, and support >>> the suggestion someone had in a previous email to start thinking of a new >>> non-Western location for 2016 right now. It would more specifically allow >>> for a sort of sustainability plan to emerge. I would also vote against >>> London not because I don't like it (quite the contrary!) but because Berlin >>> is way cheaper in terms of everyday activities and accommodation. Lastly, >>> you could also bootstrap some mapping of who has more troubles going to >>> Berlin rather than to London. >>> >>> My 2 cents, >>> Rayna >>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:35:15 +0100, Rufus Pollock < >>> [email protected]> said: >>> >>> > Also and thoughts on the *specific criteria* by which we should >>> > evaluate location options? >>> >>> In addition to the venue itself: >>> >>> - A place with a humane immigration apparatus so as to allow people >>> wishing to attend to do so with as little barrier as possible and >>> that treats them with resepect as they cross borders. >>> >>> - Also a place where good food and decent accommodation is available >>> at as low a cost as possible. >>> >>> In my opinion the first criterion could well do with being extended >>> beyond those attending and meetings should not be scheduled in places >>> with generally discriminatory immigration policies. Sadly that means >>> most of Europe, but if it must be Europe we can pick the best of a bad >>> lot. >>> >>> -w >>> _______________________________________________ >>> okfn-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> okfn-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) >> Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre >> http://br.okfn.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> okfn-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss > > -- Abog. 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