> On Jan. 27, 2014, 9:42 p.m., Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > ui/pageview.cpp, line 4485
> > <https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115335/diff/1/?file=240733#file240733line4485>
> >
> >     Can you explain why the need for a timer?
> 
> Yichao Zhou wrote:
>     This is because, in scroll mode, user just moves their mouse a little bit 
> and then does nothing.  The screen will automatically scroll until user exits 
> scroll mode (by another mouse click).
>     
>     In order to let the screen scroll duratively, you will need a timer.
> 
> Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>     And this is why the whole bug makes no sense. Okular already has a way to 
> scroll that is using the left mouse button. And now you want to make the fact 
> that middle mouse button also scrolls but in a different way. This makes no 
> sense at all. I'm not going to continue reviewing this unless someone 
> explains me why Okular should have two different ways of scrolling.
> 
> Yichao Zhou wrote:
>     I do not quite understand this.  How can I use the left mouse to do 
> scroll?  If you mean in "Broswer" mode and use the mouse to drag the page, 
> then I can argue that
>     
>     1.  Using the middle mouse is more suitable when you want to scroll a 
> large distance.   The "drag" method is not very convenient when you want to 
> scroll more than a screen:  you need to move the mouse to the bottom of the 
> screen, drag it to the top and then repeat this until you scroll to your 
> target.  _You need move your mouse a lot_.  But for middle mouse, it is 
> relatively simpler:  You do a middle click.  Then you move you mouse down a 
> little bit (the scroll speed is determined by this displacement).  Then the 
> page starts to scroll.  You wait until the page scrolls to the target 
> position and then you do another click to stop the scroll.  _You do not need 
> to move your mouse a lot and you can achieve a higher scroll speed than using 
> left mouse's method_.
>     
>     2.  For people migrated from adobe reader (or Windows), they maybe more 
> happier using middle wheel to scroll according to their habit.  (Although 
> this is short, I think this is the main reason people request this feature on 
> the KDE Bugtracking System).
>     
>     3.  Using middle mouse to scroll works in all mode including the 
> "Broswer" mode.
> 
> Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>     1. Really? Have you even tried Okular? Because you do *not* need to drag 
> your mouse to the top...
>     
>     2. Do you know of any other app that uses that totally non standard way 
> of scrolling?
>     
>     3. So?

1.  I have said I do not quite understand what you mean by scroll using the 
left mouse button.  I only know I can "drag the page", which really needs me to 
move my mouse up a lot if I want to scroll *a large distance down*.  (Of course 
I can just set the page number or use the page up/down button, but that also 
requires me to move my mouse for viewer to toolbar, which may not be a small 
distance.)  If I'm wrong, maybe you could described the desired behaviour of 
okular so I can see if I'm missing any feature.

2.  
  (a).  Firefox, there is an option "Use autoscrolling", which enables you to 
use this way of scrolling.
  (b).  Libreoffice, I'm sure there is also a similar setting,  even through 
middle click is important because it is a "paste" command by default, which is 
not a problem for Okular.
  (c).  Evince, the gnome's pdf reader also enable you using middle click to 
scroll *by default*.  Although its behaviour is a bit different compared to 
this patch, it is at least compatible to people's habit. 

  What I list are the applications under Linux.  Almost all the applications 
under Windows Operation System use this method to scroll, like Adobe reader, 
firefox, chrome, IE, Office and [[name any application using scroll heavily]].  
Maybe it is a non standard way of scrolling under X, it is definitely the de 
facto scroll standard (except for using wheel) under Windows without doubt.

  When I was new to okular (and Linux), the accidental resize of the document 
when you want to scroll is really really annoying!  Although it is accpetable 
for me,  since I'm used to use the wheel to scroll the page under Okular now.  
I just want to share a patch which may solve the similar problem that I have 
suffered!

  In fact, in application such as Web Browser and Document Reader, what people 
mainly does is just scrolling page down!  Maybe you do not really need it;  
maybe the code in pageview.h is in a little disorder now; but IMHO it totally 
is worth it!

3.  So maybe it is more convenient for some people?  People do not need to 
switch back for scroll if they want to stay, for example, at text selection 
mode?  (I pretty like to stay at text selection mode since I can highlight the 
text that I'm reading.)


- Yichao


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On Feb. 4, 2014, 4:39 a.m., Yichao Zhou wrote:
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> (Updated Feb. 4, 2014, 4:39 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Okular.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 219121
>     http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219121
> 
> 
> Repository: okular
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> According to the comments in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219121, I 
> implemented that feature with an option in accessibility pages.
> 
> 
> This patch also fixes some problems in the original patch, and provides more 
> features, including
> * In scroll mode, you can press ctrl key to enter zoom mode
> * Now you can use middle key to scroll in all mouse mode (broswer, zoom, 
> selection, etc.)
> * In scroll mode, now okular can load new page correctly
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   conf/dlgaccessibilitybase.ui 9e76a75 
>   conf/okular.kcfg deabd07 
>   ui/pageview.h 9c15af6 
>   ui/pageview.cpp 65967bf 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115335/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Yichao Zhou
> 
>

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