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greetings Semiramis Guillen oostenbugerpark 174 1018 ht Amsterdam Holanda ++31(0)613894509 ++310(20)7794788 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Ol-discuss Digest, Vol 39, Issue 15 > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:00:06 -0700 > > Send Ol-discuss mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ol-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Remove author? (George Oates) > 2. Re: Remove author? (Patrick Conley) > 3. Re: Remove author? (Dave Caroline) > 4. Re: Subtitles? (George Oates) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:59:54 -0700 > From: George Oates <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] Remove author? > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > A quick search for "author" reveals other alternatives used by (professional) > catalogers: > > http://openlibrary.org/search?author=author > (See the Author search facet.) > > Unknown author 403 > Unknown Author 358 > Author unknown 254 > No Author 145 > Author Unknown 59 > No Author. 54 > Author 20 > No author. 16 > No author 12 > unknown author 8 > Unknown Author Unknown 7 > no author 7 > No Author Stated 7 > (No Author) 6 > No author noted 5 > No author noted. 4 > no author listed 4 > (no author) 4 > Author Not Stated 4 > Author. 4 > No author specified 3 > Miscellaneous Author 3 > no Author 3 > Author One 3 > Multi-Author 3 > No Author Listed 3 > No Stated Author 3 > Author Anonymous 2 > (no author given) 2 > Author 2 > Author Wright 2 > Unkown Author 2 > No author stated 2 > Mms suspense author 2 > Author Test 2 > TEST AUTHOR 2 > > Cheers, > george > > > > On 10/18/10 11:26 AM, Patrick Conley wrote: > > If there are tales, there must be an author or an editor. In the case of > > the > > audio cassette I would use "Unknown". > > > > http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2624611A/Unknown (2.712 works) > > > > or > > > > http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2674189A/Author_unknown (254 works) > > > > > > Am 18.10.2010 19:53, schrieb Sarah Breau: > >> Some books have too many authors to name, or no author given. For example, > >> the > >> author of Tales of Fools and Wise Folk (OL9838343W) is listed as > >> "Storytelling > >> Press National" which is not an author. Often a book's editor is put in the > >> author field, but when given a choice, I leave the author field blank and > >> put > >> the editor in as a contributor. However, at this point, I cannot remove the > >> author from a work, and since Tales of Fools and Wise Folk does not have an > >> editor, I guess the publisher will have to stand in for now. Since it can > >> be > >> difficult to add all contributing authors to the author field (I recently > >> came > >> across a collection that had over 300 authors) I think we should be able to > >> make the author field blank. Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ol-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:53:36 +0200 > From: Patrick Conley <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] Remove author? > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Yes, but I wouldn't use Mr. Test, who wrote the famous "Test Title": > > http://openlibrary.org/books/OL13633928M/Test_Title > > > Am 18.10.2010 23:59, schrieb George Oates: > > A quick search for "author" reveals other alternatives used by > > (professional) > > catalogers: > > > > http://openlibrary.org/search?author=author > > (See the Author search facet.) > > > > Unknown author 403 > > ... > > Author Test 2 > > TEST AUTHOR 2 > > > > Cheers, > > george > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:53:53 +0100 > From: Dave Caroline <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] Remove author? > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > there is a simple ish cure > > add a subjetc/article table that links to the main work > then the author links to the article/subject line > > Dave Caroline > > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Sarah Breau <[email protected]> wrote: > > Some books have too many authors to name, or no author given. For example, > > the author of Tales of Fools and Wise Folk (OL9838343W) is listed as > > "Storytelling Press National" which is not an author. Often a book's editor > > is put in the author field, but when given a choice, I leave the author > > field blank and put the editor in as a contributor. However, at this point, > > I cannot remove the author from a work, and since Tales of Fools and Wise > > Folk does not have an editor, I guess the publisher will have to stand in > > for now. Since it can be difficult to add all contributing authors to the > > author field (I recently came across a collection that had over 300 authors) > > I think we should be able to make the author field blank. Any suggestions? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ol-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:08:26 -0700 > From: George Oates <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] Subtitles? > To: Open Library -- general discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Patrick, > > It seems like that long German title contains a commonly used separator ":" > so > could conceivably be a cojoined title : subtitle... > > FWIW, I've changed lots of titles on openlibrary.org, but mainly along the > lines > of making something title case, or correcting a typo. Sometimes people split > the > title/subtitle if it's clear. > > Cheers, > george > > > On 10/16/10 5:16 PM, Patrick Conley wrote: > > No, a library should not change the title of a book. If the title contains > > words like "and", "or" etc. they are part of the title. > > > > BTW: The Robinson's book has a pretty short title compared with other works > > from > > the past. Just take this book from 1882: > > > > "Des hocherleuchteten Lehrers, Herrn Johann Arndts, weiland > > General-Superintendenten des F?rstenthums L?neburg, Sechs B?cher vom Wahren > > Christenthum : welche handeln von heilsamer Bu?e, herzlicher Reue und Leid > > ?ber > > die S?nde und wahren Glauben, auch heiligem Leben und Wandel der rechten > > wahren > > Christen; desgleichen wie ein solcher S?nde, Teufel, H?lle, Welt, Kreuz und > > alle > > Tr?bsal durch festen Glauben an Gottes Wort und Gebet ?berwinden soll. Nebst > > beigef?gtem Lebenslauf des seligen Herrn Autors, ingleichen kurzen Gebeten > > nach > > jedem Capitel, Morgen- und Abendsegen auf alle Tage in der Woche, und > > n?thigen > > Registern, auch mit 66 feinen Holzschnitten geziert, nebst dessen > > Paradiesg?rtlein. Nebst sieben und zwanzig geistlichen Sendbriefen des > > seligen > > Verfassers." > > > > In this case San Francisco Public Library gave up and uses the short > > version: > > "Des hocherleuchteten Lehrers, Herrn Johann Arndts ... Sechs B?cher vom > > Wahren > > Christenthum" > > > > http://openlibrary.org/books/OL22942972M > > > > > > Am 16.10.2010 20:16, schrieb Alan Millar: > >> I see some books with [what looks to me like] a title and subtitle > >> connected by "or", currently all together in the title field. For > >> example: > >> > >> The Swiss family Robinson, or, The adventures of a father and his four > >> sons on a desert island > >> > >> http://openlibrary.org/works/OL2463033W > >> > >> This seems to me like it should be split between the title and subtitle > >> fields. > >> > >> Should the word "or" be kept at the beginning of the subtitle? > >> > >> - Alan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ol-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] > > End of Ol-discuss Digest, Vol 39, Issue 15 > ******************************************
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