Right, Frankie. It's a terrible rats nest!

The one cataloging "policy" for people's names is to use "natural order" in a 
single field over Lastname, Firstname in separate fields.

So, Alex - we're not going to be able to support your request. I hope that's 
not 
a blocker!

Cheers,
george


On 3/17/11 4:34 AM, Frankie Roberto wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Alex Stinson <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     The standard use on the English Wikipedia is so that the last name comes
>     first, the first and last options allow the program to automatically 
> format it,
>
>
> It's odd - lots of people seem to prefer (or just perhaps be used to) seeing
> "Lastname, Firstname" - on another project I worked on, seeing names in this
> order is one of the top user requests.
>
> Splitting a single name into first names and surname is doable, but not 
> entirely
> trivial. You might think that you could simply hive off the last word from the
> name, but you have to remember to account for hyphenated double-barrelled
> surnames, and surnames prefixed with additional words like "von" or "van" (as 
> in
> Dick Van Dyke). Plus there are a few special cases of people with double
> barrelled surnames that aren't hypenated (such as "Helena Bonham Carter) which
> you'd miss and would somehow have to fix by hand.
>
> Then, in any views, you'd have to remember to not rely on the surname field
> being present, as there are plenty of people who don't have (or commonly use)
> one (eg Madonna and many Brazillian people). So you'd have to have some extra
> logic defaulting to just using firstnames if surname is blank.
>
> Finally, just to confuse matters even more, the convention in some countries 
> in
> to place the family name before the given name (known as 'Eastern Order') -
> however, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_name#Name_order,
> when transliterated into the western alphabet, some people choose to swap the
> order around, whereas others don't.
>
> All in all, you can see why it's conceptually easier to just have a 'name' 
> field
> for the most common form of someone's name, with 'alternate names' for any 
> other
> forms...!
>
> Frankie
>
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