Hi Pasi,

Our suggestion was specifically for VNF Event Streaming 
(https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/ves/VES+Home) which is one of the options 
supported as collection mechanism in DCAE.  Please refer to the documents 
shared by Alok 
here<https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/VNF+Requirement+validation+for+DCAE> . 
Regarding your comment on performance – please refer to an evaluation available 
in public domain 
here<https://www.slideshare.net/IgorAnishchenko/pb-vs-thrift-vs-avro>  which 
compares Protobuf, Avro and Thrift.

Protobuf can define the schema (VNF originated event format) in a .proto file. 
Example can be seen 
here<https://blogs.cisco.com/sp/streaming-telemetry-with-google-protocol-buffers>.

Regards

Manoj



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Hi Manoj,

Is your proposal in any way aligned with what has been proposed on 
openconfig<http://www.openconfig.net/> streaming telemetry project, or would 
this be an independent ONAP specific version built around the gRPC ?

Would this be used just for the VNF originated events/metrics, or also for the 
infrastructure originated events/metrics ?

Would you tie the descriptions of VNF originated events to some way to describe 
what VNF is able to expose as part of the VNF package (either tied to TOSCA or 
some other way) ?

We have been testing the capabilities of Kafka vs. AMQP (using Apache QPID 
dispatch router<https://qpid.apache.org/components/dispatch-router/index.html>) 
with the very specific goal to assess delivery capabilities of low-latency 
events (targeting fault events that need "fast", sub-50ms remediation 
processes) along with large amounts of metrics data in the same messaging 
"bus". We have not tested either VES or gRPC performance, but binary encoding 
could also help on the events side, as it could eliminate the unnecessary 
encoding/parsing steps from the path (obviously assuming that the event syntax, 
semantics and context data are well defined in the first place).

Thanks,

Pasi Vaananen,

Systems Architect, NFV

Office of Technology, Red Hat

On 07/14/2017 05:01 AM, Manoj K Nair wrote:
Hi Alok,

We reviewed the VES specification you shared after the presentation in DCAE 
weekly meeting couple of weeks back.  We understand that currently VES supports 
a REST based interface with JSON payload to push telemetry data and events from 
the VNF to DCAE VES collector. For telemetry control an HTTP response channel 
is being used as per the test code link you published in the presentation.

Just wondering if GPB is considered as one of potential options for VES.  You 
have noted the use of Avro as one potential option as future enhancement. 
Wondering if GPB is also a potential option you are considering. Some of the 
advantages we see for GPB are.
•       Uses binary formatting during serialization, which densily packs the 
payload (which is good for PM/telemetry data)
•       Faster than the VES proposed JSON payload (which is good for events and 
alarms)
•       Can define the structure (schema) of events/telemetry data in a 
protocol definition file (.proto) which is similar to the JSON schema that is 
available in OPNFV VES project
•       Availability of code generators in multiple programming languages for 
encoding and decoding - Can generate code in C#, C++,  Java, Python, Go . 
Options in other languages available as well.

While we have noted the dynamic schema capabilities in Avro, one key advantage 
we see with GPB is the serialization code generation in multiple languages 
without limiting to the C language based library which is currently available 
and open source tool sets available for GPB. Moreover many network vendors and 
open source monitoring solutions (e.g. Prometheus, 
link<https://prometheus.io/docs/instrumenting/exposition_formats/>)   support 
GPB already. We would be glad to share more information on the potential GPB 
usage if required.

Regards

Manoj
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