Lingli, all: I though we are now discussing ONAP and how to improve it, and not Open-O?
Furthermore, ONAP is indeed using BPEL/BPMN workflows, but that is as part of the MSO. MSO may decide to delegate certain portion of the orchestration to a TOSCA-based orchestration engine, and what is delegated to such engine may have to use its own internal/native workflows. The real question here is: are we trying to leverage the best of all we have available, or are we trying to keep replicating the status-quo forever. Regardless of the answer, I find it that it is a very narrow perspective if we only want to discuss workflows in the context of what was implemented initially in Open-O or ECOMP, instead of opening a broader discussion of what makes sense where in the overall architecture. Best regards, Michael On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:10 AM, Lingli Deng <denglingli at chinamobile.com> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > You may consult your gigaspace's colleage, as my recollection, native > workflow proposed by gigaspaces was turned down by the consensus of the > OPENO community, we decided to use BPMN/BPEL type of workflow, you can > also find out the workflow in MSO /APPC of OPENCOMP are also using BPMN/DG > > Thanks, > > Lingli > > > > *From:* onap-discuss-bounces at lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-discuss-bounces@ > lists.onap.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Brenner > *Sent:* 2017?4?26? 11:09 > *To:* denghui (L) <denghui12 at huawei.com> > *Cc:* onap-tsc at lists.onap.org; JANA, RITTWIK (RITTWIK) < > rjana at research.att.com>; onap-discuss at lists.onap.org > > *Subject:* Re: [onap-discuss] Modelling discussion on Friday May 5th > > > > But no TOSCA native workflows ... why? > > Michael > > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 8:03 PM, denghui (L) <denghui12 at huawei.com> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > Thanks for your suggestion, workflow is already covered in the Shitao?s > session, they will discuss > > 1) OPENCOMP Workflow > > 2) OPEN-O Workflow. > > > > Best regards, > > > > DENG Hui > > > > *From:* Michael Brenner [mailto:michael at gigaspaces.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 7:14 AM > *To:* Amir Levy > *Cc:* JANA, RITTWIK (RITTWIK); Nguyenphu, Thinh (Nokia - US/Irving); > denghui (L); onap-discuss at lists.onap.org; Nati Shalom; > onap-tsc at lists.onap.org > *Subject:* Re: [onap-discuss] Modelling discussion on Friday May 5th > > > > I'll be happy to attend and take part in the discussion and would like to > suggest to add workflows to the agenda ...a topic which I offer to moderate. > Best regards, > Michael > > On Apr 20, 2017 4:51 PM, "Amir Levy" <amir at gigaspaces.com> wrote: > > Thanks DENG for leading this initiative. > > > > I would love to share few quick links to prepare for this meeting: > > > > We have a two parts video that provides TOSCA in practice training : Part > 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMkqLI6o-58 and > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGmpi--7-A > > > > And Michael Brenner for ETSI/NFV and TOSCA has recently drafted a in-depth > comparison between model-driven and task-driven workflows: > http://getcloudify.org/brochures/tosca-workflows-Apr-2017.pdf > > > > ? amir > > > > amir at gigaspaces.com +1 408 916 8572 <(408)%20916-8572> > > > > On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Nguyenphu, Thinh (Nokia - US/Irving) < > thinh.nguyenphu at nokia.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Rittwik and DENG, > > > > Is modeling discussion covering network service and VNF descriptors? Or it > is broader to cover all of the ONAP functions? > > > > Yes, I am planning to attend. > > > > Thinh > > > > *From:* onap-discuss-bounces at lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-discuss-bounces@ > lists.onap.org <onap-discuss-bounces at lists.onap.org>] *On Behalf Of > *denghui > (L) > *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 3:35 AM > *To:* denghui (L) <denghui12 at huawei.com>; onap-tsc at lists.onap.org; > onap-discuss at lists.onap.org > *Cc:* JANA, RITTWIK (RITTWIK) <rjana at research.att.com> > *Subject:* [onap-discuss] Modelling discussion on Friday May 5th > > > > Hello all > > > > We are happy to let you know that we are hosting a modeling session on > Friday, May 5th, AT&T Lab. > > 9:00-10:30 Shitao moderate: TOSCA NFV Profile > > 10:30-12:00 Rittwik moderate: AT&T Parser > > 13:30-16:00 DengHui moderate: Modelling & Opendeployment > > > > Please kindly help to let us know if you are interested in joining us, so > that we can book a proper meeting room for our discussion > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rittwik & DENG Hui > > _______________________________________________ > onap-discuss mailing list > onap-discuss at lists.onap.org > https://lists.onap.org/mailman/listinfo/onap-discuss > > > > > > > > -- > > *Michael Brenner, **Chief Architect NFV* > > ------------------------------ > > M: +1-732-895-5772 <(732)%20895-5772> > > http://getcloudify.org > <http://getcloudify.org?utm_source=signaturesatori&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cloudify%204.0%20Webinar> > > @cloudifysource > > <https://twitter.com/CloudifySource> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/17918192/> > <https://github.com/cloudify-cosmo> > <https://www.youtube.com/cloudifysource> > > > > <http://getcloudify.org/webinars/the-new-cloudify-4.html?utm_source=signaturesatori&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cloudify%204.0%20Webinar> > > > -- Michael Brenner, Chief Architect NFV ------------------------------ M: +1-732-895-5772 http://getcloudify.org <http://getcloudify.org?utm_source=signaturesatori&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cloudify%204.0%20Webinar> @cloudifysource <https://twitter.com/CloudifySource> <https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/17918192/> <https://github.com/cloudify-cosmo> <https://www.youtube.com/cloudifysource> <http://getcloudify.org/webinars/the-new-cloudify-4.html?utm_source=signaturesatori&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cloudify%204.0%20Webinar> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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