All,

I don’t think we should confuse information and data model specifications with 
specific implementations of these models inside various ONAP projects.

Model specifications should be human readable and easily consumable by 
developers inside and outside of ONAP. The curation and maintenance of model 
specifications is the responsibility of the modeling subcommittee.

The implementations of model specifications belongs with the individual ONAP 
projects. Committers within those projects are ultimately responsible for 
making sure that the model specifications are followed and implemented 
correctly. We don’t need committers outside the projects to be involved in this 
process…

Kind regards,

Alex Vul
Intel Corporation

From: onap-disc...@lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-disc...@lists.onap.org] On 
Behalf Of Brian Hedstrom
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 21:38
To: denghui (L) <denghu...@huawei.com>
Cc: GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E) <ma...@research.att.com>; 
onap-disc...@lists.onap.org; ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [onap-tsc] PTL Election announcement for ONAP 
modeling project

Regarding the following statement:
For modelspec doc, the committers: lingli deng, donghu, hanyanan, shitao li, 
maopeng zhang, Rittwik Jana, Sandeep Shah, Zhaoxing Meng, Zhong heliu

I don't feel this is an accurate list.  Since there is a lot of confusion about 
what's being done under the Modeling Project versus the Modeling Subcommittee, 
I feel that the list of committers above is omitting all the committers who've 
been working on the various Information Models and Data Models (for example, 
the VNF Package Model Sub-project efforts).  And as my earlier email asked, I'm 
not clear what is meant by modelspec.  Our committed resource, Jessie, for 
example has made significant model contributions, in addition to several 
resources from AT&T (among others as well).

Thanks
Brian

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:44 PM, denghui (L) 
<denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>> wrote:
Hi Mazin

Inline please == >

From: GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E) 
[mailto:ma...@research.att.com<mailto:ma...@research.att.com>]
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 6:58 AM
To: denghui (L) <denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>>
Cc: onap-disc...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-disc...@lists.onap.org>; 
ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org<mailto:ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [onap-tsc] PTL Election announcement for ONAP 
modeling project

Thanks Deng.

Still need more clarification.

1. Are you running the Chair election for the Modeling subcommittee as well.
If so, please make a clear distinction between that and the project PTL 
election.
== > I have already sent email yesterday , there will be different election for 
committee and project,
The community recommend to finish it by the end of Aug. we will do it.

2. I am concerned that the definition of committers is cloudy here.
You have docs and you have code. Committers who write codes
are not necessarily qualified to review and write code.
Therefore, it is important that you have a PTL who is qualified to commit
and understand code as well.
== > current Gerrit repos has already distinguished them for different right:
For toscaparser repo, the committers : maopeng zhao, Rittwik Jana, Serban Jora, 
Zhaoxing Meng.
For modelspec doc, the committers: lingli deng, donghu, hanyanan, shitao li, 
maopeng zhang, Rittwik Jana, Sandeep Shah, Zhaoxing Meng, Zhong heliu
For who will be PTL, let committers to decide.

Thanks a lot

DENG Hui

Appreciate the clarification.
Mazin




On Jul 5, 2018, at 9:48 AM, denghui (L) 
<denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>> wrote:

Hi Mazin

I guess that you know that PTL couldn’t remove the committer, I sent email to 
every committer after Release 1,
two of them email’s are not reachable, one agree to step down, so that’s the 
reason we removed 3 of them after the vote of all committers.
Others replied and said that they would like to continue.

Current committers are not only for tosca parser , but also for modelspec.

Thanks a lot

DENG Hui

From: GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E) [mailto:ma...@research.att.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:20 PM
To: denghui (L) <denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>>
Cc: onap-disc...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-disc...@lists.onap.org>; 
ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org<mailto:ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [onap-tsc] PTL Election announcement for ONAP 
modeling project

Thanks. I am assuming the project is based on the repo that is supporting the 
Tosca Parsers,
and you are tracking active committers.

Are you holding an election at the same time for the Chair subcommittee?

Mazin


On Jul 5, 2018, at 8:21 AM, denghui (L) 
<denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>> wrote:

Mazin

Yes it is modeling project PTL election other than modeling subcommittee.

You may have missed below email which does have the link to repositories
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Resources+and+Repositories#ResourcesandRepositories-Modeling<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Resources-2Band-2BRepositories-23ResourcesandRepositories-2DModeling&d=DwQFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=IKSC5mg8GeOiSar1dax3GQ&m=h336thy4AQC9X1JMXCsyYKGnG9RZQiRvWQY-u54zaMI&s=ffAQ4YaMD5X0xX09fOLdQR9a4020jv33Vw3hzajOwBA&e=>
the committers in modeling project are:
Hui Deng
Shitao Li
Rittwik Jana
Bruce Thompson
Maopeng Zhang
Zhaoxing Meng
Amir Levy
Arthur Berezin
Sandeep Shah
Ling Li
Liuhe Zhong
Yannan Han
Hu Dong
Serban Jora
Lingli Deng

I did send email to helpdesk to remove 3 of them from the list before based on 
the confirmation of project:
Bruce Thompson
Arthur Berezin
Ling Li

It seems that they are still here, I will send again to helpdesk
So the final qualified committers are:
Hui Deng
Shitao Li
Rittwik Jana
Maopeng Zhang
Zhaoxing Meng
Amir Levy
Sandeep Shah
Liuhe Zhong
Yannan Han
Hu Dong
Serban Jora
Lingli Deng

Thanks for your checking
Best regards,

DENG Hui


From: GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E) [mailto:ma...@research.att.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 7:35 PM
To: denghui (L) <denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>>
Cc: onap-disc...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-disc...@lists.onap.org>; 
ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org<mailto:ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [onap-tsc] PTL Election announcement for ONAP 
modeling project

Deng,

I appreciate you holding an election for the PTL.

For the modeling project PTL election, we need each Chair to ensure they have 
vetted all
active committers before any election is taking place. Can you share the list of
active committers.

As outlined in the website the issue is different for the subcommittee modeling 
Chair.

It seems that you are initiating a PTL election and not a subcommittee modeling 
Chair election.
Please confirm, and share the list of active Committers who will be voting for 
the new PTL.

thanks
mazin








On Jul 4, 2018, at 2:14 AM, denghui (L) 
<denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>> wrote:

Dear ONAP Community and ONAP TSC,

As mandated by ONAP process, PTL elections must be held at least once a year.
You can read more details here: 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Annual+Community+Elections<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Annual-2BCommunity-2BElections&d=DwMFAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=Oej6QUk5p2KdqNEWySpOHA&m=aqtE2C1ZdfxIEpvFpsi-ywKvepAjMEEvXvpyXwKvr7o&s=1VOSZREkf7OvEcmx6COn9S0Mz80ACCfrmsVXjmhZwZs&e=>

if you are interested in this position, I invite you to submit your 
self-nomination for ONAP modeling project.

Important dates:
-----------------------
You have 2 days to submit your self-nomination from receipt of this email. (End 
by July 6th 2018 10:00 IST)

Election duration: July 6th 2018 12:00 IST -  July 11th 2018 12:00 IST
(from CVIS system, private email will be sent to all committers email id 
mentioned 
athttps://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Resources+and+Repositories<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Resources-2Band-2BRepositories&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=IKSC5mg8GeOiSar1dax3GQ&m=XBYNhzlk2jx6nSVGWpJjJUhpTLxHynkr7bh6Vp5VOXU&s=odKqVMZCdJUsygPKUpW7Gk3KS-ALAv3Pe3CO5I_82Ls&e=>
 )

Election result: July 11th 2018 (will be announced in onap-discuss and onap-tsc 
mailing lists)





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