Am 07/23/2011 06:51 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:

On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:29 AM, IngridvdM wrote:

Please find my comments inline.

Am 23.07.2011 14:45, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
I think Christian is right. It's about to close the gate for being a
*initial* committer. Not the *normal* committer status.

I don't have gotten that wrong. I was talking about the initial committers too.

And for this we have to define a deadline. My suggestion is still end of
July or latestly end of August.

No given reason has convinced me of the necessity of a deadline here.

While there is ample reason to have a generous deadline, I haven't heard a good 
reason not to have a deadline.

When you have entered your name on the list on the beginning and haven't
answered back until today (even not to say "sorry, I need a bit more
time"), then IMHO it's time for a deadline.

Maybe if we were able to understand why some of these individuals have delayed 
it would help.

I know what you mean but when they haven't shown up here until today, IMHO they also won't answer to tell us why not. ;-)

Marcus



Am 07/23/2011 01:29 PM, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:
Hi Ingrid, *,

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, IngridvdM<ingrid...@gmx-topmail.de>
wrote:

I disagree with you in the opinion that the door needs to be closed
some day
and that people need to be sorted out. This can easily be felt to be
very
alienating, without any positive effect.

I strongly disagree here. The door is not closed as written many times
already.

Lets choose the example that an initial commiter signs up the iCLA
only next
year. The reasons are pointless.

No, not at all, you cannot be an *INITIAL* committer if you're not
part of it from the very beginning.

The ones that have signed the iCLA can simply fully work already. Those
who have not signed the iCLA can contribute via mail and the user wiki.

Yes. But not as *initial* committers.

So lets not waste our time with processes to prevent something that
is of no
harm.

It is doing harm. Having "fake" committers/supporters that only exist
on paper is doing big harm (in perception, reputation of the whole
project).

There can be a difference in number between initial committers and 'completed' 
committers in both cases. Whether we put a deadline on this or not does not 
change that.
And I think it is not ok to call those who have not completed the legal paper 
work yet to be 'fake' committers.

Kind regards,
Ingrid


ciao
Christian

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