On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 14:49 -0400, drew wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 11:42 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:39 AM, drew wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 11:18 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:06 AM, drew wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:37 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>>>>> <big snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just hit the templates site and it's back, I would rather we ask the
>>>>>>> current admin about what, if any, maintenance is needing done on the
>>>>>>> site, and then we should offer, if it would help, to try and find some
>>>>>>> volunteer help to get that done, asap.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is what an OSUOSL admin said in July when this happened last:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s)
>>>>>>> should be back online now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while mostly
>>>>>>> because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix the performance
>>>>>>> issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the fact that the
>>>>>>> machines they power those sites are very underpower considering the load
>>>>>>> they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications
>>>>>>> because they just go off all the time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely
>>>>>>> re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind. At least one of
>>>>>>> the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core. I know some
>>>>>>> Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into a Drupal 6
>>>>>>> module but I'm not sure where that left off.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these sites can be
>>>>>>> fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched thin for
>>>>>>> resources.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks-
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The offer is there. I'll give anyone the admin's email and off the list 
>>>>>> if you want to contact him.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Howdy Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well I'll not be much technical help with Drupal, however I can start by
>>>>> posting an email to the Apache infra ML and see if maybe there is
>>>>> someone skilled in the art willing to work with our current admin and
>>>>> the osu admin. I'll do that in a little bit here, if no one minds.
>>>> 
>>>> Ideally someone here on the ML would be a Drupal guru.
>>> 
>>> I'll send this one then - and if needed the other after a day or so..;-)
>> 
>> Alright - well just tried to hit the extension site (from the OO.o front
>> page) 6 times, 5 'connection reset', 1 time success - then clicked on
>> templates and 'connection reset'
>> 
>> No hands up here yet that I've seen.
>> 
>> People do want to have this site up, yes?
>> 
>> So - I said I'd not be much help, that isn't the same as no help.
>> 
>> I assume all the drupal setup is under version control, or is it just
>> the custom changes (with any schema changes) - either way I can setup a
>> VM here and see about tackling an update from 5 to 6 (not 7???)
>> 
> 
> What are you trying to accomplish?
> 
> I thought the fact that the extensions site was hosting software
> downloads that were not all under the Apache 2.0 license, and in some
> cases were not even OSS, made it impossible for us to be hosting the
> site on Apache servers.

I think that Drew should investigate what is up at OSUOSL.

There had been Oracle people working on it. The sysadmin there knows something 
of what went on.

They get so many warnings due to the load that they have turned off their 
Nagios checks.

Perhaps - there is a need for more machine at OSUOSL and that is all...

Maybe that would be a good use for some of the non-Apache fundraising. Could 
this be the spot for co-operation with other projects?

Regards,
Dave


> 
> 
>> _while_
>> 
>> Sending an email to the apache infra ml looking for additional help.
>> 
>> OK
>> 
>> //drew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> //drew
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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>> 

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