On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:06 AM, drew wrote: > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:37 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote: >>> [from out of left field] >>> Would members consider transferring ownership of the current repository >>> hosted on the OSUOSL server to a third party, perhaps created >>> specifically to take this over, and then working with them to create the >>> indirect reference site under the AOO project, filtering out >>> un-acceptably licensed items as a way to achieving option #2. This would >>> move the entire repository without needing to locate individual authors. >>> >> >> I don't see how we can claim ownership of the content on the OSUOSL >> server. > > Hi Rob, > > Well, I'm not at all sure I agree with that, what exactly happened then > when the Sun brand came off the site and the Oracle brand went up, that > was window dressing with regards to the site name - Oracle could not of > moved the site to xxx.oracleoffice.org even if they also maintained a > live redirect of the old address? > >> It was not part of the Oracle SGA, as far as I know. So it >> is not ours to give to a 3rd party. >> >> But if a 3rd party steps forward and is willing to navigate the >> licenses and figure out way to host them all, then I'd wish them the >> best of luck. >> >> The main technical things we need to coordinate are: >> >> 1) How are submissions made to the catalog >> >> 2) How is the catalog queried? >> >> 3) How are extension updates propagated? >> >> 4) Do we want a single catalog, in the style of Firefox plugins, or >> allow multiple catalogs, perhaps filtered by support category or >> license, like Ubuntu? >> >> 5) What do we need to do to ensure a clean programmatic interface to >> the catalog (a RESTful service) as well as a good end-user UI? >> >> 6) Is there a way we can manage, with sufficient user data protection >> provisions, some sort of recommendation engine, where extensions are >> recommended either based on user actions, or based on ratings and >> similarities to other users (collaborative filtering)? >> >> 7) Is there anything we can do to allow the user to interact with >> extensions (browse, sort, filter, download, rate, update, etc.) >> entirely within OOo editors? >> >> So in general, I think this is an opportunity to do more than just >> re-host the existing extensions site. It is an opportunity to rethink >> how users and extensions authors could interact. > > I agree with much of that > - I guess I would opt here to pull us back from either my > out-of-left-field idea, or the perfect solution for the moment. > > Just hit the templates site and it's back, I would rather we ask the > current admin about what, if any, maintenance is needing done on the > site, and then we should offer, if it would help, to try and find some > volunteer help to get that done, asap.
Here is what an OSUOSL admin said in July when this happened last: > Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s) > should be back online now. > > The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while mostly > because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix the performance > issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the fact that the > machines they power those sites are very underpower considering the load > they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications > because they just go off all the time. > > What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely > re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind. At least one of > the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core. I know some > Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into a Drupal 6 > module but I'm not sure where that left off. > > Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these sites can be > fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched thin for > resources. > > Thanks- The offer is there. I'll give anyone the admin's email and off the list if you want to contact him. Regards, Dave > > While not to lose focus on working those longer term ideas. > > Best wishes, > > //drew >
