Off-topic. Please drop this line of inquiry and return to the Subject of this thread, which is about determining required info for the crypto export declaration.
>________________________________ >From: Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> >To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 11:07 PM >Subject: Re: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration > >On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Norbert Thiebaud <nthieb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Norbert Thiebaud <nthieb...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Looks like LO discussed it briefly [4], but dismissed it under the >>>>> misapprehension that since they are not in the US, the regulation is >>>>> irrelevant. >>>> >>>> I'm confused, how is that a 'misapprehension' exactly ? >>>> >>>> Are you concerned about compliance with >>>> http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000000801164&dateTexte=#LEGISCTA000006136109 >>>> ? >>>> >>>> if not, why not ? are you "under the misapprehension that since [you] >>>> are not in [France], the regulation is irrelevant." ? >>>> >>> >>> You should take a look at the Wassenaar convention. There is a lot >>> more similarity than you might think between French and US >>> requirements. >> >> You're missing the point. The point is: it makes a lot of sens of >> Apache, being legally established in the US, to comply with the export >> regulation of its host country... >> but claiming that not paying attention to US regulation for a >> non-US-based entity is a 'misapprehension' does not make much sens to >> me. 'France' here was just a convenient example to illustrate the >> fallacy of the argument. one could find hundreds of jurisdictions with >> each their own hoops and quirks... most likely some of them >> contradicting each others. >> > >You should read my response to Dennis. I think you miss the entire >point of why this paperwork is important. It has almost zero to do >with where your webserver is. That is maybe 5% of the significance of >the paperwork. If that is all you see, then you are missing most of >the big picture. This is about making the software consumable for >repackaging and redistribution by large hardware and software >distributors, who -- like it or not -- tend to be American, not >French. If you are thinking only of end users downloading the >software from your LO webserver in Germany (or wherever it is), then >you are missing the vast majority of the consumer, public sector, >academic and enterprise markets. > >>> The diligence you do to satisfy US regulations will >>> also help you with the regulations in any other countries you, or your >>> users, need to work with. >> >> The French term that best describe this vision of the world is >> 'nombrilism' (I'm afraid the english translation doesn't quite does it >> justice.. too literal, doesn't carry the larger meaning, I think) >> >> Norbert >> > > >
