Hi,
On 13.01.2012 14:25, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
Hi Claudio,
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 09:46:05AM -0200, Claudio Filho wrote:
Absolutely! I agree with you that René doing an excellent work and he
knows all inside the OOo/LibO packaging process!
Great to see we agree there!
What i (try) say is that we have a small number of people envolved in
this process. As you said, are 3 people for a *big* project. Think
this 3 people looking *two* bigs projects. IMO, I can't see how.
The "small number of people involved" are not really the problem. The core
issue is how bad OpenOffice.org historically was prepared for releases on *nix
platforms, requiring huge amounts of fragile workarounds. At LibreOffice a lot
of this stuff has already been simplifed upstream, there has been good
(invisible to the enduser) progress here.
That is good to hear, maybe we can learn from that improvement.
The only reason packaging of
OpenOffice.org was sustainable with the given resources for OpenOffice.org was
because of the slow developement velocity and longwinding release cycles.
I can accept "longwinding release cycles" but not "slow developement
velocity". After all Sun/Oracle has been the biggest contributor for
OpenOffice. LibreOffice is still integrating features made by
Sun/Oracle (it has just been a month or two since my new Impress slide
sorter turned up in LibreOffice.)
Given the progress at LibreOffice, I think the motivation to go back to the
messy, wasteful and fragile release process of OpenOffice.org (which is where
AOOoI is currently at) is very limited for all current participants (who are
all involved in some way in upstream LibreOffice development btw).
You are right that our old release process was not the best. Still, I
would choose friendlier words.
At Apache OpenOffice we are working to improve on that. Any help from
LibreOffice is welcome.
if I maintain a package and its project forked in two, i should choice
one branch too. I think that is impossible maintain two enormous
packages like AOOo and LibO.
Given that LibreOffice is actively maintained, that OpenOffice.org is dead and
Apache OpenOffice (Incubating) has not even released yet, I think there is an
obvious conclusion from your statements.
Well, no. After all, OpenOffice.org is not dead. It just got a new home.
Regards,
Andre
Best,
Bjoern
