On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Jürgen Lange <j...@juergen-lange.de> wrote: > Am 14.02.2012 20:04, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Dave Fisher<dave2w...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Armin Le Grand wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Wolf and Dave, >>>> >>>> On 14.02.2012 17:23, Wolf Halton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Armin Le Grand<armin.le.gr...@me.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> [..] >>>>> >>>>> Hi Armin, >>>>> Now I understand. You're right, It should say Apache OpenOffice, >>>>> since that ended up being the name we chose. I went and looked at the >>>>> Hadoop site http://hadoop.apache.org/ where the Apache part of the >>>>> name is prominent. Drew made up the logo currently there, I believe. >>>>> Just changing the logo and maybe a couple of additions to the name in >>>>> a few text blocks would be good. >>>> >>>> Thanks for clarification, and sorry, I just re-checked and indeed I did >>>> not mention that I wanted it to be 'Apache OpenOffice'. Sigh. I'll try to >>>> be >>>> more clear next time. >>>> >>>> I cannot remember all of that discussion when to change the branding, >>>> but wouldn't people be surprised when we publish an 'Apache OpenOffice 3.4' >>>> and they expected an 'OpenOffice.org 3.4' due to the naming conventions on >>>> the web pages...? Also we already changed the logos in the program and the >>>> installers, AFAIK. >>> >>> We have changed the source code. We have changed the graphics - although >>> more are coming. We may have developer builds. >>> >>> We do not have an AOO release. The download button on www.openoffice.org >>> provides the user with OpenOffice.org 3.3. >>> >>> IMO we should wait to change the logo until we have the release. If the >>> consensus is to change now then I think that both the main landing page and >>> the download pages need some work. >>> >> I think we want to start changing in advance of the release. Why? >> Because we want to ensure legacy OOo users are familiar with the new >> brand. Otherwise, when we do release, they'll be confused. I >> understand your point about legacy users being confused if they start >> seeing new new brand now. But that just argues for doing this >> intelligently. It does not argue for not doing it yet. We need to >> communicate the new brand. >> >> So we could have a mini-campaign like "OpenOffice.org is now Apache >> OpenOffice". Blog, announce list, social media, website, etc., do it >> two weeks before the release is made, say when we have a solid RC >> ready to vote on (probably not our first RC). Do it along with an >> "AOO 3.4 is coming soon" tease. >> >>> The plan could be: >>> >>> (1) Since there is a thread about it. Wait for a final logo treatment >>> from Drew. If not in the next few days then use the one in the podling site >>> as a placeholder. >>> >>> (2) Change the ooo-site header to use the new image. Warning this will be >>> a "sledgehammer" CMS build, all files are touched. >>> >>> (3) If we have one, we should add the contact us link / page in the same >>> commit / build as (2) I think it belongs on the bottom next to "Copyright& >>> License". >>> >>> >>> (4) Rework www.openoffice.org so the buttons are not so big. Kay has >>> brought this up in another thread. >>> >>> (5) Rework www.openoffice.org so that the download experience better sets >>> user expectations. >>> >>> I'll play with some ideas for (4) and (5) this week. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>>>> Wolf >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Armin >>>> -- >>>> ALG >>>> > Hi Rob, > I'm using the term Apache Open Office for a couple of weeks now. It's used > in a German blog.
Oh, great. The alternative plan would be to have a special name for German users, We could call it "Lieber OpenOffice" ;-) -Rob > Sincerly, Juergen (another one)
