Am 04.03.2012 um 23:43 schrieb Marcus (OOo):

> Am 03/04/2012 08:02 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> With the Oracle infrastructure going away we are in danger of losing the 
>> legacy downloads and the root of the MirrorBrain network.
> 
> I haven't realised that this counts also for the download webserver. I 
> thought for mail services only.

Is it definite that {download,updateext}.service.openoffice.org is going to be 
switched off - and when is it?
 
>> Also it turns out that the Extensions site uses the url 
>> updateexte.services.openoffice.org for updates and that url points to 
>> download.services.openoffice.org
> 
> I don't know the reason for the linking. But maybe it's because a few 
> extensions are outsourced from the main repository due to their high load. 
> See:
> 
> http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/extended/extensions/

/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update is one of the most popular files - with 
around 5-10 requests per second.


>> SourceForge has asked to take control of updateexte.services.openoffice.org 
>> which makes sense.
> 
> Great.
> 
>> What do we want to do about download.services.openoffice.org?
> 
> It can be switched to the alternative host which is hosted by MirrorBrain 
> itself, so that this is used for serving downloads instead of the Oracle 
> hosted service.

Please note however that my fallback of download.services.openoffice.org does 
not have all features. It has the mirror redirection (the essential), but does 
not serve cryptographic hashes for verification, no automatically generated 
torrents, no metalinks.

If you compare the following two URLs, you can note the differences:
http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Solaris_Sparc_install-wJRE_en-US.tar.gz.mirrorlist
http://openoffice.mirrorbrain.org/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Solaris_Sparc_install-wJRE_en-US.tar.gz.mirrorlist

Also, what's not visible, is that the fallback host doesn't count downloads.

Mirror selection and redirection are the same. But as you might know, large 
downloads benefit from means for download verification, which is why crypto 
hashes and metalinks/torrents are useful, especially affecting downloaders with 
not less-than-ideal connectivity.

To set up a full fallback, I am lacking the disk space, unfortunately. I don't 
have space for the file tree. (I would appreciate donations for running costs 
of disk space, or access to server, very much.)

But, no problem, there is the option of continuing by switching to my host as 
it is. 

Given there is hardware, I could set up a successor for 
download.services.openoffice.org, respectively move it to a new home, if there 
is interest... 

Well I hope there is! I know I am biased, because I'm the one who built 
download.services.openoffice.org, and spent some years with it. But I'd bet 
some money that nobody wants to go back to pre-MirrorBrain times, where the 
really close mirrors were always ignored when you downloaded OpenOffice.org...

> See the file "http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars.js";. Just 
> exchange the content for the "MIRROR_MIRRORBRAIN_URL" and 
> "MIRROR_MIRRORBRAIN2_URL" variables.
> 
> Marcus


By the way, here's a disclaimer: I'm also the "head" behind LibreOffice's 
download system. Yes, if you might wonder: I am maintaining the download 
servers of both projects and have no problem with that :-)

Peter

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