2012/4/13 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@googlemail.com>

> On 4/13/12 3:54 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
>> 2012/4/12 Jürgen 
>> Schmidt<jogischmidt@**googlemail.com<jogischm...@googlemail.com>
>> >
>>
>>  On 4/13/12 1:13 AM, Christoph Jopp wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 12.04.2012 17:45, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts<lui...@gmail.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012-04-12, at 15:57 , Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 4/12/12 4:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Roberto Galoppini<
>>>>>>>> rgalopp...@geek.net>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Rob Weir<robw...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I think it would be good if we could get them the message that AOO
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3.4
>>>>>>>>>> should be released soon, and that they are invited to
>>>>>>>>>> download/install
>>>>>>>>>> our latest dev back and verify that their extensions work and make
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> needed updates.  We would point them also to the details of the
>>>>>>>>>> changes described in the readme file.  Of course, we hope that no
>>>>>>>>>> changes are needed, but it is worth checking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How would we get such a message out?  There is no mailing list of
>>>>>>>>>> extension authors, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  We could contact Extensions' authors via direct mailing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  How?  Is this something that SF can send out, if we draft the
>>>>>>>> text?
>>>>>>>> Also, is there any community mailing list or forum for extension
>>>>>>>> authors?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guided all subscribers of the former api and extensions dev mailing
>>>>>>> list to our ooo-dev list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it actually also makes sense to initiate a new effort to get
>>>>>> extension writers. We did this several years ago, but at the time,
>>>>>> b/c of
>>>>>> the typical politics of some big corporations, we ran up against some
>>>>>> obstacles, that I think won't exist now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I would like to do, then, is to have a programme that could work
>>>>>> with community colleges such as Seneca, with which I have contacts
>>>>>> and with
>>>>>> which OOo had worked before, and with universities Eric B. has worked
>>>>>> with.
>>>>>> As well, with the many smaller companies making up the ecosystem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do keep in mind that we realized many years ago that the best way to
>>>>>> expand the developer and contributor community of OOo was via the
>>>>>> extensions. It was this idea that impelled me, that compelled
>>>>>> Juergen, that
>>>>>> stimulated the early creators of the Extensions project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Would it make sense to start with a new list, ooo-extension-authors
>>>>> or
>>>>> similar, with the aim to:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Develop a community of extension authors, where they can share tips
>>>>> and techniques with each other, as well as with the AOO programmers.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Provide a single place where the AOO PMC can give head's up warning
>>>>> of API changes or additions, advertise the availability of new dev
>>>>> snapshots, and in general try to coordinate a release cycle where AOO
>>>>> releases are accompanied by simultaneous availability high quality 3rd
>>>>> party extensions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Provide a place for new extension authors to ask questions and get
>>>>> support
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in most Apache projects, the "users" list would be where such
>>>>> topics would be handled.  But our "users" are end users, not developer
>>>>> users.  So we would want a different list for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> (ooo-dev was another logical place for this, but I think the traffic
>>>>> level would be a deterrent for someone who is only interested in
>>>>> extensions)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> +1000 to all three points.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> well, it was the initial idea to create further lists on demand. I don't
>>> see this demand at the moment and would prefer if we continue for now
>>> here
>>> on the list by simply using the tags [API],[EXTENSIONS] that we have
>>> introduced at the beginning. That would make it easy for all to create
>>> filter to focus on this email but it would also allows others (newcomers)
>>> to see, read and join efforts that going into this direction.
>>>
>>>
>> In case you might need, you could consider to use the
>> forum/mailing-list/wiki features at the Extensions project page on
>> SourceForge. Of course this wouldn't lock you in because you'll have
>> access
>> to all data and the SourceForge platform itself is open source.
>>
>>
> thanks Roberto for pointing this out this further option. But I would
> prefer to concentrate this communication here on the lists.
>
> We shouldn't split the development groups too much
>

Fully understand, just wanted to let you know you have the possibility to
use those tools.

Best,

Roberto


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> Juergen
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>  Roberto
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>>> Juergen
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>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>  louis
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Roberto
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  -Rob
>>>>>>>>>>
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