This was a discussion about rules of voting for new committer and PPMC member. We think it is more appropriate to let all contributors get involved in this. So I moved the discussion to ooo-dev.
General process about voting in a new committer and PPMC member is here http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html By far the practice is most candidates were voted for committer and PPMC member at the same time. And no concreate critrial defined in public for AOO. Your comments are welcomed. A comment from Rob: >If it were entirely up to me I'd have it be like: >1) Contributor -- anyone who contributes to the project, mailing list discussions, patches, translations, bug reports, doc, support. This comes in all flavors and sizes. We need to do a better job giving them credit and acknowledging their contributions. If the feeling is that someone is not valued unless they are voted in as a PPMC member, then we're doing something wrong. >2) Committer -- The threshold question: Do we trust their judgement with respect to the area of their contributions? The move from contributor to committer is a move from RTC (patches must be reviewed) to CTR. So we really need to have a sense that they are doing quality work. Committers also have veto rights on all of our commits. So we need to trust their judgement. >3) PMC member -- The threshold question: Do they understand The Apache Way and our community-based decision making? On average are they solving more community problems than they are causing? Are they helping others in the community succeed? When we graduate, and our Mentors move on to other podlings, the PMC collectively needs to mentor new members to the project. So I think the PMC is more about trusting their community skills rather than their technical skills. >It might be possible for someone to qualify for 2 and 3 at the same time. But probably not in every case. >Note: This is not how we have operated previously. I think there was an bootstrapping issue where we needed to have a PPMC suitably large and diverse to provide balance. We also obviously started with a PPMC consisting of people who did not fully understand Apache. That is the nature of Incubation. But I don't think this approach is necessarily something we should continue with a year later, as we approach graduation.
