On Jul 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> I'd like to propose that the project consider a special level of Committer >> called Translator. >> >> These individuals will need to meet the following requirements: >> >> (1) Sign an ICLA and have it on file. >> (2) Be sponsored by a member of the PPMC. >> >> Once a sponsor is found. >> >> (A) The Sponsor starts a VOTE thread for Translator by the PPMC on >> ooo-private. >> (B) With a successful VOTE an Apache ID is requested. >> > > I'd suggest just doing it by lazy consensus, without the ceremony of a > vote thread, a discussion thread, a required mentor vote, cross > posting to IPMC private and related overhead. In other words, treat > it like the Subversion project does with its "partial committers":
We can live with the extra formality until graduation. We agree that as a TLP this extra overhead is reduced in any case. > "A full committer sponsors the partial committer. Usually this means > the full committer has applied several patches to the same area from > the proposed partial committer, and realizes things would be easier if > the person were just committing directly. Approval is not required > from the full committers; it is assumed that sponsors know what > they're doing and will watch the partial committer's first few commits > to make sure everything's going smoothly." > > http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/roles.html Keep in mind that this is a project that came to The ASF as an actively working project. This arrangement was grandfathered into Apache Subversion. > >> The Apache ID is setup just like for a Committer except no SVN Karma is >> granted. >> > > Ehh, but don't we want translators to have karma to /ooo-site as well, > so they can edit the website? So maybe enough to limit it to that? > Or maybe it is not worth worrying about translators messing with C++ > code. We do, but we also don't know how tied in pootle will all be and for ooo-site anonymous contributions are not a problem - merit can be accessed. > >> The Translator would have access to pootle.a.o and people.a.o. >> >> Translators who earn merit can later be VOTEd into Committer and PPMC roles. >> >> If the project wants to do this then I'll take it up with the IPMC to see if >> it is an acceptable practice. >> > > It appears to be acceptable for TLP's given the Subversion example. > So worst case we just wait for graduation to make such changes. > > In any case, I share your goal of finding a streamlined way of giving > Translators access to Pootle. > > Thanks for starting the thread. You are welcome. Regards, Dave > > -Rob > >> Regards, >> Dave