Exactly so Dennis, and here is the community documentation which spells out how a committer can "more easily make changes without having to go through the patch submission process" for the website:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html "...Making updates to the Apache OpenOffice project's websites is simple. It's even easy for non-committers (new contributors - like you) to create a patch to request that pages are updated by the project community...." ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:17 PM > Subject: RE: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) > >T he following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who are > invited to be committers on AOOi. It is derived from a model document that > is > to be found on the Apache site: > > Hello <invitee>, > > The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) > hereby offers you committer rights to the project ... . > > Being a committer enables you to more easily make changes without > needing to go through the patch submission process. This applies > not only to the code base but other project areas, such as the > web sites. ... > > Being a committer does not require you to participate any more > than you already do. It does tend to make one even more committed. > You will probably find that you spend more time here. > > That same text was in the invitation that Hagar received from the PPMC on > 2012-03-04. > > This is my sole contribution to this thread. I am disappointed that Hagar > left > the PPMC. > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 14:42 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:29 PM >> Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) >> >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT) >> Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> If Hagar has a debilitating illness that prevents him from >>> acquiring the requisite skills, let me apologize for asking >>> him to try to do something a normal person on this mailing >>> list can accomplish for themselves. >>> >>> That's the best you're going to get Larry. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com> >>> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >>> > Cc: >>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:14 PM >>> > Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack > of) >>> > >>> > >>> > On 2012-07-17 3:04 PM Rob Weir wrote: >>> >> Please, everyone. Let's not pile on this thread with > more >> name >>> >> calling, etc., in the heat of the moment. >>> >> >>> >> Let's set it aside and see tomorrow if there is anything > more >> that >>> >> should be said. We accomplish nothing with rapid-fire, > emotional >>> >> responses. >>> > >>> > I will quit responding when Hagar gets the apology he deserves. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > _________________________________ >>> > >>> > Larry I. Gusaas >>> > Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada >>> > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com >>> > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are > far >> behind >>> > theirs." - Edgard Varese >>> > >>> >> >> I suggest the other Mentors should _urgently review_ this thread and > consider >> what behaviour is expected from a mentor. >> >> It is unfair to require a volunteer to change his level of committment, or > to > > Relax- nobody is *requiring* anything of anyone. This is about expected and > model behavior. For reasons that escape me at this point, Hagar was made a > committer on this project, and that comes with certain expectations. > Additionally > there are expectations on how *anyone* subscribed to this mailing list SHOULD > apply > community documentation as it pertains to website maintenance. That is of no > surprise > to anyone either. > >> suggest that he might need (I quote) "a debilitating illness that > prevents >> him from acquiring the requisite skills." If he has not the time or > the >> inclination to extend his role, that is sufficient. > > It was, at the end of the day, a *challenge* to either accept or pass on. > Expect > there to be more of them when others approach this mailing list with bug > reports > about web pages, because we want people to use the tools provided by the org > to > fix those bugs themselves. Will everyone comply? Of course not. This is > just > the first example of that- pity it's coming from a committer. >
