On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If I recollect correctly, Ross volunteered to work the roster issue on
> behalf of the PPMC and as one of more active mentors. He's pretty busy at
> the moment, but I think we can put this taskforward for his attention and
> action.
>

We're already doing this, on ooo-private.  All PPMC members should be
monitoring that list or they will risk missing important threads.

-Rob

> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org
>> wrote:
>
>> @sebb
>>
>> Yes, what you say about the position of the Chair (and also how the chair
>> accomplishes that as an officer of the ASF) was what I had in mind.
>>
>> With regard to the PPMC, here is a roster of the *current* PPMC (subject
>> to corrections anyone notices):
>>
>>     Kai Ahrens : kahrens PPMC
>>     Florent André : florent PPMC
>>     Dave Barton : bmcs PPMC
>>     Mathias Bauer : mbauer PPMC
>>     Cyril Beaussier : bidouille PPMC
>>     Stephan Bergmann : sb PPMC
>>     Raphael Bircher : rbircher PPMC
>>     Simon Brouwer : simonbr PPMC
>>     Arthur Buijs : artietee PPMC
>>     Jin Hua Chen : chenjinh PPMC
>>     Jian Hong Cheng : chengjh PPMC
>>     Ariel Constenla-Haile : arielch PPMC
>>     Yuri Dario : ydario PPMC
>>     Hagar Delest : hagar PPMC
>>     Herbert Dürr : hdu PPMC
>>     Claudio Filho : filhocf PPMC
>>     Andre Fischer : af PPMC
>>     David Fisher : wave PPMC
>>     Thomas J. Frazier : tj PPMC
>>     Roberto Galoppini : galoppini PPMC
>>     Pedro Giffuni : pfg PPMC
>>     Wolf Halton : wolfhalton PPMC
>>     Dennis E. Hamilton : orcmid PPMC
>>     Don Harbison : dpharbison PPMC
>>     Regina Henschel : regina PPMC
>>     Ivo Hinkelmann : ivo PPMC
>>     Kazunari Hirano : khirano PPMC
>>     Martin Hollmichel : mhollmichel PPMC
>>     Jim Jagielski : jim PPMC
>>     Drew Jensen : atjensen PPMC
>>     Christoph Jopp : cjopp PPMC
>>     Damjan Jovanovic : damjan PPMC
>>     Peter Junge : pj PPMC
>>     Yegor Kozlov : yegor PPMC
>>     Marcus Lange : marcus PPMC
>>     Graham Lauder : yo PPMC
>>     Armin Le Grand : alg PPMC
>>     Steve Lee : stevelee PPMC
>>     Wang Lei : leiw PPMC
>>     Christian Lippka : clippka PPMC
>>     Ian Lynch : ingotian PPMC
>>     Yong Lin Ma : mayongl PPMC
>>     Carl Marcum : cmarcum PPMC
>>     David McKay : thegurkha PPMC
>>     Ingrid von der Mehden : ingrid PPMC
>>     Antón Méixome : meixome PPMC
>>     Maho Nakata : maho PPMC
>>     Albino  Neto : bino28 PPMC
>>     Andrea Pescetti : pescetti PPMC
>>     Frank Thomas Peters : fpe PPMC
>>     Allen Pulsifer : apulsifer PPMC
>>     Eike Rathke : erack PPMC
>>     Manfred Reiter : fredao PPMC
>>     Zoltán Reizinger : r4zoli PPMC
>>     RGB.ES : rgb-es PPMC
>>     Phillip Rhodes : prhodes PPMC
>>     Andrew Rist : arist PPMC
>>     Lawrence Rosen : lrosen PPMC
>>     Roberto Salomon : salomon PPMC
>>     Juan C. Sanz : jucasaca PPMC
>>     Kay Schenk : kschenk PPMC
>>     Jürgen Schmidt : jsc PPMC
>>     Yang Shih-Ching : imacat PPMC
>>     Jomar Silva : homembit PPMC
>>     Kai Sommerfeld : kso PPMC
>>     Louis Suárez-Potts : louis PPMC
>>     Stefan Taxhet : st PPMC
>>     Malte Timmermann : malte PPMC
>>     Zhe Wang : wangzcdl PPMC
>>     Rob Weir : robweir PPMC
>>     Oliver-Rainer Wittmann : orw PPMC
>>     Jian Fang Zhang : zhangjf PPMC
>>     Xia Zhao : lilyzhao PPMC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:17
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
>>
>> On 23 August 2012 19:22, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
>> wrote:
>> > I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to
>> be identified before the election of a Chair from that body is undertaken.
>>
>> The initial proposed PMC for other podlings has usually been taken
>> from the PPMC membership, but dropping any inactive (or unwilling)
>> members.
>>
>> > Also, this seems like a very good time to review, for the benefit of all
>> here, what the duties of PMC members are and, with respect to that, what
>> the specific responsibilities of the Chair are and what the special
>> standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried out.
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>>
>> The PMC chair is a position of responsibility (to the PMC and Board)
>> rather than authority over the PMC.
>>
>> >  - Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:36
>> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
>> >
>> > Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next
>> > tasks is to identify a PMC Chair.
>> >
>> > You can read about the duties of a PMC Chair here:
>> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>> >
>> > How do we want to do this?
>> >
>> > A strawman proposal:
>> >
>> > 1) Nominations would be open for 72 hours.  Anyone can nominate
>> > someone for the role.  Self-nominations are fine.  And of course
>> > nominations can be declined.
>> >
>> > 2) If there is only one nomination, then we are done, provided there
>> > are no sustained objections.
>> >
>> > 3) If there is more than one nomination we discuss on the list for
>> > another 72 hours.  Discussion would primarily be on ooo-dev, but some
>> > subjects might be directed to ooo-private.
>> >
>> > 4) If after 72-hours discussion there are still two or more nominees
>> > then we vote.  Everyone would be welcome to vote, but binding votes
>> > would be from PPMC members.  If there are more than 2 candidates we
>> > would probably need to use a more complicated voting system, or have a
>> > run-off vote if none of the nominees receive an outright majority.
>> >
>> > Any improvements or alternatives to this basic scheme?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > -Rob
>> >
>>
>>

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