On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
>>> Are there any updates on this? I have asked a little while ago with no
>>> response. I am willing to get this up and running. Please let me know.
>>>
>>
>
> I'd like to preface Rob's answers with a couple of remarks.
>
> I went to your website [1] where it is clear that your company is in the 
> business of selling support for openoffice.org. There is nothing wrong with 
> that as long as it fits the new rules here at The Apache Software Foundation. 
> The Apache License allows you to do as you wish as long as you respect the 
> trademarks. [2] Guidelines are found here [3] and here [4].
>
> The distribution page is here [5] we appreciate your offer to help. It is 
> important for everyone in the OpenOffice ecosystem to be as successful as 
> possible.
>
> Rob's questions are good, but I think that understanding and how to navigate 
> the above would be most helpful in determining how update and improve the 
> message. I'll answer some of Rob's questions in that context.
>
> [1] http://www.123openoffice.com/
> [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html
> [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/trademarks.html
> [5] http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/
>
>
>>
>> Is it clear, from the previous discussions, what the range of concerns
>> were?  If so feel free to make a proposal. Any community member can do
>> this.
>>
>> The questions I want to see addressed in a proposal would be:
>>
>> 1. What does it mean to be a distributor?  Any requirements?  If so
>> how are these checked?
>
> This could be certification of passing the above and getting a trademark and 
> project approval.
>
>>
>> 2. Where on the website do we list distributors?  What disclaimer
>> should we include?
>
> We should list those who have been reviewed for trademark compliance.
>
>>
>> 3. How do we ensure the list remains accurate and fair?
>>
>> 4. Do we anticipate any logo or other trademark use in conjunction
>> with this program?
>
> This site uses the openoffice.org community distributor logo/
>
>>
>> Obviously some of the questions are interdependent. At the easiest
>> level, a simple list, managed by distributors on a wiki page, with a
>> disclaimer, would be easy to implement.
>
> The list should be about how to get trademark approval.
>

When I say "the easiest level" I mean no logo or other trademark use
beyond permitted nominative use, which requires no special permission.
Beyond that we'd need additional structure and process.

But maybe simple is good enough?

-Rob

> But as important the page should be about how to get a site added in a way 
> that is most painless. Perhaps we already have that in the links above.
>
> HTH,
> Dave
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>

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