On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pedro Giffuni <p...@apache.org> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
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> >>
> >> As a minor update, the only observation we received so far (besides a
> >> substantial number of +1 votes, no abstentions or -1) was that almost
> all
> >> the proposed PMC members do not belong to other Apache projects; our
> > mentors
> >> were asked if they perceived this as a problem, and we didn't get an
> > answer
> >> from them so far.
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> >
> > Hmmm.... I think there are several PMC members who are involved with
> > other areas of Apache:
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> > 1) Don is involved with ConCom, as well as working with Sally on Press
> > and Communications.
> >
> > 2) Others, like Oliver, Louis, etc., have been active in the ApacheCon
> planning.
> >
> > 3) Andrew, Juergen and Raphael have worked closely with Infra on many
> > things. There may be others.
> >
> > 4) In general I think we're comfortable working with Trademarks and
> > Legal Affairs on an ongoing basis. This includes raising questions
> > and getting advice, but some, like Dennis, are active sharing what
> > they have learned as well.
> >
> > 5) Dave is involved with POI. Don and Juergen are also on the PMC of
> > the ODF Toolkit. I think Pedro said he was getting involved with a
> > new BeanShell project proposal.
> >
> > 6) There was the work moving the SPI funds to Apache that involved
> > coordinating with ASF Treasurer.
> >
> > So I do not know whether it is accurate to say that no one but Dave
> > is "active in more than just the OO project".
> >
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> The above is all mostly unrelated. I do think we should have included
> some of our mentors in the PMC.
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It never occurred to me that any of them would have necessarily been
interested. It seemed curious to me that this should be pointed out
actually, but I have no former experience in how initial PMCs are
established. Maybe it was mostly a concern due to our size and the extent
of our activities. We have the "roles" thread that Oliver started a while
back that should be documented on the planning wiki, and see if we've
forgotten anything, or want to document these activities more in depth.
As for me, I'm happy to see that Dave Fisher is included, and I'm sure we
can rely on him for advice, etc.
> This was a failure in the method we chose to determine the initial PMC:
> we chose based on project visibility/popularity and by their function our
> mentors have tried to remain with a low profile and intervene only when
> it was absolutely necessary.
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> This is something relatively easy to fix though, let's hope it doesn't
> delay
> us too much.
>
> Pedro.
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