Am 10/27/2012 12:33 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06:45PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
I've modified the subject as I think this topic deserves its own,
new thread.

Am 10/26/2012 07:28 PM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Once thing to pay attention for the next release is the increasing size:
more than 14 Gb for Linux packages only. This is going to be even more,
as more languages are added. INFRA has already complained after the
first release (can't find the message right now) about the size of our
dist/ folder, so we must think about a solution, before they complain
once the next release is uploaded.

IMHO you can think and try whatever you want. At the end there is
only one solution:

Cleanup the packaging, delete redundat files, rearrange how the
install files will be packed, think new how the installation on the
users-side could be done.

Example:
For every platform, we have exactly the same files in every full
install, except for the language resource files. So, when we can
make it that only the core (languages-independent) files are once on
the mirrors and then the language resource files besides, then it
would be possible to do the installation process completely new -
with the following rough steps:

1. Create a new basis installer: little, tiny and already localized.
2. The user can choose what he wants: applications, languages,
templates, extensions.
3. The basis installer downloads this file set from the mirrors.

I've read this approach the other times this was discussed. While this
might be the current mainstream market trend, handy for those who send
their e-mails from their i-Phones and their i-Pads, it won't be suitable
for users from less-developed countries with bad internet connection.

Does OpenOffice user base come from this kind of countries? These
numbers don't seem to tell so:
http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html But I've also read "why
would someone use OpenOffice if he/she can pay for MS Office?", meaning
that OpenOffice user base is made of people who can't afford MS Office,
we could also asume they can't afford a good internet connection, even
on developed countries like the top 7 in the list (this argument missed
the point than someone may want to use OpenOffice just because it's free
software, even if can pay for MS Office - or get an ilegal copy).

I don't see the context to bad inet connections. Maybe you can tell with some other words?

When we do the restructure then we will have less content on the mirrors. But for the user there is no change as they still have to download all files that are necessary to do the installation; maybe less when they explicitely disables some applications and content that are currently be installed by default.

Marcus

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