On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:19 , Ben Shum wrote:

> Historically, the Community Meeting grew out of a need to disseminate 
> information from various groups and committees to a larger group of people 
> and it started as an extension of the Developer meetings conducted regularly 
> in IRC.  There was some discussion in those early days about the format for 
> community meetings and whether we should continue to use IRC or find 
> alternatives.  I don't recall anybody really suggesting or volunteering 
> alternatives at the time, but it never hurts to refresh the discussion.  So 
> I'm inclined to support trying new approaches too.

Ben and Thomas, you both raise valid points, and Ben, thank you, as always for 
a little bit of a historical perspective.

With my question, I assumed a complementary use of conference call and IRC chat 
where all participants would be using both. There is not a good immediate 
solution I can think of for bridging the call-only with IRC-only participants, 
if people can't do both simultaneously. I would say that's enough reason not to 
attempt it at this time.

> 
> Some logistical concerns with conference call though:
> 
> Looking back and doing a quick head count of people who identified themselves 
> during the last community meetings, we tend to have at least 12-20 
> participants (possibly more lurking).  Are individuals or organizations in 
> the community able to volunteer access to a conference call line large enough 
> to support that many (or more) simultaneous participants?  Do we have to use 
> some sort of professional meeting tool like WebEx or similar?  Will the 
> volunteers who setup the conference line be tasked to also coordinate the 
> running of the meeting, to avoid having everybody talking at once, etc.?

I will check with our office to see what sorts of numbers our system could 
handle, should we decide in the future to give it a try. Crowding was exactly a 
concern I had for using IRC -- it seems to get a bit chaotic when many people 
are present. Perhaps the same problem would exist on a conference call, 
although in my experience long pauses tend occur more frequently than instances 
of multiple people trying to speak all at once.

> 
> I think Thomas also raises a good point about participant cross communication 
> issues with phone/IRC.  So bridging that gap would need to be necessary as 
> well.

Yes, I think unless all participants can use both, conference call+IRC is not 
the ultimate combo, it would be a disconnected experience for some.

> 
> -- Ben
> 
> On 08/30/2012 12:24 PM, Thomas Berezansky wrote:
>> I question how those who can't participate via IRC (assuming that is a goal 
>> here) and those who can't participate via the conference call will interact 
>> with each other.
>> 
>> Not that I am sure I would be attending either way, but I am much more 
>> likely to participate in IRC than on a conference call.
>> 
>> Thomas Berezansky
>> Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
>> 
>> 
>> Quoting Jason Etheridge <ja...@esilibrary.com>:
>> 
>>>> Any objections to having this meeting on conference call in parallel to 
>>>> the IRC?
>>> 
>>> I don't like the idea, but I don't necessarily object.  Worth trying
>>> new things and learning from the results. :)
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Jason Etheridge
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>>> | email:  ja...@esilibrary.com
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Benjamin Shum
> Open Source Software Coordinator
> Bibliomation, Inc.
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